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Ryan S
Retired Sonos Staff
January 21, 2020

End of Software Updates for Legacy Products

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End of Software Updates for Legacy Products

Please note that we’ve created a new thread with some clarifications to questions that have come up several times in this thread. Please see here to continue the discussion if you still have any questions. The information contained in this thread is outdated and may no longer be accurate.

 

We have some important news regarding our oldest Sonos devices shared on the Sonos Blog today. The text of that blog post is being included here for your convenience:

 

Starting in May 2020, some of our oldest products will no longer receive software updates or new features. We want to explain why and your options. 

When we first set out almost 20 years ago to invent the technology to easily listen to any song in any room, most of the ways we listen to music today did not exist. In fact, the first Sonos products were introduced before the first iPhone was announced and when Myspace still ruled social media. 

 

In order to invent multi-room music and smart speakers, we combined the worlds of high-fidelity audio and computing. Every Sonos product has a microprocessor, flash memory, and other hardware components typically found in computers and smartphones.  

 

Since launching our first products, technology has advanced at an exponential rate; from streaming services and voice assistants to wireless networking and Bluetooth capabilities.  Through all of this transformation, we have continued delivering new features via software updates. We’re extremely proud of the fact that we build products that last a long time, and that listeners continue to enjoy them. In fact, 92% of the products we’ve ever shipped are still in use today. That is unheard of in the world of consumer electronics. However, we’ve now come to a point where some of the oldest products have been stretched to their technical limits in terms of memory and processing power.  

This coming May, these legacy products—our original Zone Players, Connect, and Connect:Amp (launched in 2006; includes versions sold until 2015), first-generation Play:5 (launched 2009), CR200 (launched 2009), and Bridge (launched 2007)—will no longer receive software updates or new features. 

 Today the Sonos experience relies on an interconnected ecosystem, giving you access to more than 100 streaming services, voice assistants, and control options like Apple AirPlay 2. Without new software updates, access to services and overall functionality of your sound system will eventually be disrupted, particularly as partners evolve their technology. 

To help you through this transition, we’re providing two options:

Option 1: Continue using these legacy products, recognizing that your system will no longer receive software updates and new features.  

Option 2: Trade up to a new Sonos product with a 30% credit for each legacy product you replace.

If you’re not sure if your products are affected, you can check in the System tab in your sonos.com-account

If you choose to participate in the trade up program, your legacy products will be put in Recycle Mode, a state that deletes personally identifiable information and prepares these products for e-recycling. Recycle Mode also protects unsuspecting people from buying legacy products that are approaching the end of their useful life and won’t provide the Sonos experience customers expect today. Recycle Mode will only apply to the legacy products listed above.

 

We ask that you take your legacy products to a nearby certified e-recycling facility. This is the most environmentally friendly way to recycle. That said, if there isn’t a facility in your area, we are happy to pay for you to ship your products back to Sonos for responsible recycling.    

 

Ideally all our products would last forever, but for now we’re limited by the existing technology. Our responsibility here is threefold: build products that last a long time; continually look for ways to make our products more environmentally friendly through materials, packaging, and our supply chain and take responsibility for helping you through the transition once products near the end of their useful life.  

 

We’ve always believed in freedom of choice, whether that means choosing a certain streaming service or way to control your listening experience. We hope the choices provided here—continuing to use these products without new software updates or trading up to our modern products—enable you to make the choice that’s right for you. 

 

We are honored to have a place in your home and want to make sure that we help continue to bring the best experience we can, even when products reach the end of their useful life. 

 

More information.

 

Please let us know if you have any questions.

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    1377 replies

    Contributor I
    January 22, 2020

    I too am very disappointed, but not suprised, in the recent announcement, over the years controllers have been going obsolete, my original Sonos hardware controller went ‘obsolete’ years ago, at least two Android devices have gone ‘obsolete’ in the last year or two, on one the Sonos app stopped working altogether and the second tells me the OS is no longer supported everytime I open the Sonos app.

    I bought a sound system and expect such to last as long as the hardware, to be made obsolete by software is infuriating and scandalously wasteful of resources and the creation of waste products that the non-tech world is trying to avoid, Sonos’ ‘Sustainability Report’ is a pitiful joke.

    Much as I loved the Sonos system when it all functioned I lost faith in it when it started telling me I need to replace controllers and now they tell me I need to replace most of the speakers too. I will keep it as is until something breaks it or the hardware fails then I shall look elsewhere, I will not be buying any further Sonos products.

    A company that has so little regard for its customers and the environment does not deserve to succeed.

     

    Lyricist I
    January 22, 2020

    HI … My speakers were purchased 4.5 years ago!!! for £700.00. 4.5 years of use to be told they will be practically obsolete!!! Am i missing something here? If the assistant had informed us before we handed over our well earned cash that our purchase would be practically outdated and redundant within 5 years we would have never purchased them. I thought we were purchasing a pair of music speakers that would last a very long time. A Pair of speakers for goodness sake! I do not want a 30% discount, I want to purchase my so called upgrade for 30% of its value!! Removing the IT jargon and spelling it out plain and simple does anyone else feel dumbfounded and gobsmacked that this can happen? 

    Lyricist III
    January 22, 2020

    This is a disgrace. It’s bad enough that Sonos are forcing loyal customers to “Tradeup” products that were only purchased a couple of years ago, but when there aren’t even products to “Tradeup” to, then what are we supposed to do?!

    I rely on the “Bridge” to fill the gaps in their woeful built-in wifi, and the “Connect” to be able to integrate Sonos with my living room Surround Sound setup. Neither of these two products has a replacement which I can see, and even if they did it would cost me hundreds of pounds to simply carry on as I am.

    The patronising email I received from support which didn’t answer any of the questions, was the icing on the cake.

    I’m afraid to say that I think this is the final alarm-bell to signify that we have made a massive mistake investing in what was supposed to be a more future-proof approach to home audio systems. Sadly I’m not even going to be able to sell any of it on, because it will now all either be redundant landfill or the secondhand market will be now flooded with unwanted Sonos gear which everybody is trying to offload before it too gets written off as obsolete. This is all obviously assuming that the share price doesn’t tank so much that they go under completely!

    Avid Contributor III
    January 22, 2020

    Gutted to hear about this this morning. It encompasses a good portion of my Sonos system; 2xPlay5Gen1, 1xZP120, 2xBridge (1 is a spare). Worse than that is now I’m conscious the rest of my system (4xPlay1, 1xPlaybase, 1xSub) now has a definite service life. I only wish I could back 6 months and stop myself purchasing the 5.1 system for the living room.

    Disgraceful approach Sonos. Great hardware but your software and business sense has gone out the window. Embracing the throw away generation with both arms it seems. I work in software so can appreciate the challenges of running modern code with limited processing resources. However, I also know with software there are always options and that you as a company have obviously decided that it’s not worth investing in those options. Let’s get the plebs to ditch their old speakers and come running back to buy new. 

    Will see how this plays out over the next several months but unless the situation improves that will be end of my Sonos purchases. Maybe I can donate my kit to a museum... 

    Lyricist I
    January 22, 2020

    I’m absolutely disgusted to find that overnight Sonos can scrap most of my music system.  I have been an ardent supporter of this technology since it first came out and have invested significantly in installing the system around my home.  It may be a few years old now, but all works perfectly and simply declaring it dead appears not only a cyncial attempt to generate more revenues, but also significantly out of line with general world-wide thinking at present on unnecessary waste.  I absolutely agree with comments above that this is a disgrace and suggest urgent reconsideration to retain customer loyalty.

    Lyricist III
    January 22, 2020

    I might need to look as some sort of opensource alternative using a Raspberry Pi!!!!

     

     

    This might be the way to go, although it looks like it needs a fair amount of work still.

     

    Anyone looked at this? http://strobe.audio

     

     

    Yes, it does need more work; I updated my comment after reading that webpage properly. However it’s potentially one of a number of alternative options that might be a more sustainable and affordable way of moving forward. When you consider that Sonos has never, really, been “wireless” - there’s always been a need for power cables - and, given powerline technology has come a long way since Sonos hit the market, this is quite like to be a kick in the bum to people who’ve been dithering about going down a different route (i.e. cheap, easily upgradeable processing hardware, open-source software, open protocols, powerline+wi-fi, replaceable audio devices).

    My disenchantment with Sonos came a couple of years ago when it cost me £125 to replace (through their ‘exchange’ scheme) one of my Play 3s whose power supply had failed. 

    Lyricist I
    January 22, 2020

    Read with interest (and disgust).  Registered just to post.

    Short message as I not only refuse to give Sonos anymore of my money, but also my time.

     

    For me it’s simple. Sorry Sonos, I’m Out!!

    Lyricist I
    January 22, 2020

    So you think i should be spending my money to upgrade my 3 play 5 Gen 1 and my bridge!! and you will give me 30% off, What a rip off, I wish i had known all those years ago that you would be making half of my system useless! Hang on a minute i will just see if i can find over a £1000!! Absolute disgrace to say the least. When they no longer work i will be going elsewhere.

    Contributor I
    January 22, 2020

    I’m fuming and I only have a Play 5 that is affected. I feel sorry and extremely angry for the other people who have multiple bits of expensive equipment that Sonos just want us to re-cycle and shell out more hard earned cash on replacements. 

    I agree that the brand is damaged now, I certainly won’t be adding any more of there products in future and I will make sure any friends know how the company works if they ask me about the sonos brand.

    I say give us reasonable refunds on our soon to be useless bits of kit then we can decide if we upgrade to new or not. They can poke their 30% discount.

    Contributor I
    January 22, 2020

    This announcement is shocking and disgraceful. Like many people here, I have invested a small fortune in Sonos products over the past few years and recommended Sonos to many, many people. I feel depressed and let down by Sonos and I deeply regret having made recommendations which now reflect badly on me.

    First the withdrawal of SonosNet access for wi-fi which resulted in me being forced to buy several network extenders and now the glib expectation that I will just give Sonos more cash to buy their new kit just because they decide not to meaningfully support the products they were marketing until very recently.

    Before I would even consider “upgrading” at substantial cost to achieve the same level of functionality as I currently enjoy, I require a long term comittment from Sonos to Android, Spotify and other streaming services. What comittment will Sonos provide?

    Can anyone please recommend a good replacement for Sonos kit - my speakers are all in-wall or in-ceiling but it would be good to drive them with products in which I could have long term confidence.

    Thank you.

     

     

    Peter