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Ryan S
Retired Sonos Staff
January 21, 2020

End of Software Updates for Legacy Products

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End of Software Updates for Legacy Products

Please note that we’ve created a new thread with some clarifications to questions that have come up several times in this thread. Please see here to continue the discussion if you still have any questions. The information contained in this thread is outdated and may no longer be accurate.

 

We have some important news regarding our oldest Sonos devices shared on the Sonos Blog today. The text of that blog post is being included here for your convenience:

 

Starting in May 2020, some of our oldest products will no longer receive software updates or new features. We want to explain why and your options. 

When we first set out almost 20 years ago to invent the technology to easily listen to any song in any room, most of the ways we listen to music today did not exist. In fact, the first Sonos products were introduced before the first iPhone was announced and when Myspace still ruled social media. 

 

In order to invent multi-room music and smart speakers, we combined the worlds of high-fidelity audio and computing. Every Sonos product has a microprocessor, flash memory, and other hardware components typically found in computers and smartphones.  

 

Since launching our first products, technology has advanced at an exponential rate; from streaming services and voice assistants to wireless networking and Bluetooth capabilities.  Through all of this transformation, we have continued delivering new features via software updates. We’re extremely proud of the fact that we build products that last a long time, and that listeners continue to enjoy them. In fact, 92% of the products we’ve ever shipped are still in use today. That is unheard of in the world of consumer electronics. However, we’ve now come to a point where some of the oldest products have been stretched to their technical limits in terms of memory and processing power.  

This coming May, these legacy products—our original Zone Players, Connect, and Connect:Amp (launched in 2006; includes versions sold until 2015), first-generation Play:5 (launched 2009), CR200 (launched 2009), and Bridge (launched 2007)—will no longer receive software updates or new features. 

 Today the Sonos experience relies on an interconnected ecosystem, giving you access to more than 100 streaming services, voice assistants, and control options like Apple AirPlay 2. Without new software updates, access to services and overall functionality of your sound system will eventually be disrupted, particularly as partners evolve their technology. 

To help you through this transition, we’re providing two options:

Option 1: Continue using these legacy products, recognizing that your system will no longer receive software updates and new features.  

Option 2: Trade up to a new Sonos product with a 30% credit for each legacy product you replace.

If you’re not sure if your products are affected, you can check in the System tab in your sonos.com-account

If you choose to participate in the trade up program, your legacy products will be put in Recycle Mode, a state that deletes personally identifiable information and prepares these products for e-recycling. Recycle Mode also protects unsuspecting people from buying legacy products that are approaching the end of their useful life and won’t provide the Sonos experience customers expect today. Recycle Mode will only apply to the legacy products listed above.

 

We ask that you take your legacy products to a nearby certified e-recycling facility. This is the most environmentally friendly way to recycle. That said, if there isn’t a facility in your area, we are happy to pay for you to ship your products back to Sonos for responsible recycling.    

 

Ideally all our products would last forever, but for now we’re limited by the existing technology. Our responsibility here is threefold: build products that last a long time; continually look for ways to make our products more environmentally friendly through materials, packaging, and our supply chain and take responsibility for helping you through the transition once products near the end of their useful life.  

 

We’ve always believed in freedom of choice, whether that means choosing a certain streaming service or way to control your listening experience. We hope the choices provided here—continuing to use these products without new software updates or trading up to our modern products—enable you to make the choice that’s right for you. 

 

We are honored to have a place in your home and want to make sure that we help continue to bring the best experience we can, even when products reach the end of their useful life. 

 

More information.

 

Please let us know if you have any questions.

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    1377 replies

    Contributor I
    January 22, 2020

    So while everybody is talking about sustainability and avoiding unnecessary waste - SONOS is planning on making a business model out of bricking perfectly working products just to push out even more plastic and waste.

    This is one of the worst examples of thinking profit above planet. NOBODY believes your story behind this nightmare. This is nothing but a sales exercise. 

    Shame on you!

     

    Virtuoso
    January 22, 2020

    How long before ALL Connects are defined as Legacy? Or the earlier Play:1’s? 

    Sonos have always downplayed the internal changes whenever someone noticed a slight change on an existing model. Seems those changes were more significant than they are letting on?

    My trust in Sonos is simply gone - this is an extraordinarily sad day for what was once such a reliable and (comparatively) trustworthy brand.

     

    You can use this to make an educated guess

     

    Makes grim reading for my Playbar, Play:3 and multitude of Play:1's..

    I bet everything without Airplay connectivity is due for the chopping block sooner rather than later..

     

     

    Enthusiast II
    January 22, 2020

    Absolutely furious - the new products don’t add anything I want. I run speakers in my bedroom with a ZP100 and  to my expensive home stereo with ZP80 (+ 2 other ZP80’s). I also recently bought a Sonos Beam for my TV which doesn’t work properly either I might add - keeps making my Sony Bravia reboot. 

    This is a mercenary cash grab. They could have easily put a fork in their programming code for legacy products and continued to support them. I’m an ex programmer. They just want a perpetual income stream.

    I won’t be coming to the party and falling for their scam any more. Never again will I buy Sonos and I’ll be telling everyone of my friends what they have done. I guessed this would happen in another post here in the past and sure enough despite people saying it wouldn’t happen they have done exactly what I thought they’d do. Shysters.

    Lyricist I
    January 22, 2020

    Simply a stupid business decision. If the consequences are as presented in this announcement, and no legacy compatibility is provided by May, I have bought my last Sonos device. Let’s wait and see...
     

    Immediate impact is, that all extensions to my Sonos system were just put on hold until further notice… and while waiting, I have started educating myself with Bluesound and Linn, and maybe some other options too.
     

    I am truly surprised if this announcement does not hurt Sonos sales. But even if it does not, my direction is out unless things change by May.

    The trade discount of 30% is a joke - in practise it means : buy your device again if you wish to continue using it!

    Lyricist I
    January 22, 2020

    Well what a huge announcement. 

    When I buy Hi-Fi equipment I expect it to last  a lifetime. With a brand like Sonos that's what I expected, a quality sound system that would last a long time. 

    With this news, it has eventual system bricking written all over it.

    This is  just gouging your customer base.

    Offering a 30% rebate is also a joke.

    Sonos had better guarantee that they won't be bricking legacy equipment.

    I certainly won't upgrading my existing equipment nor purchasing any addition Sonos gear unless there are guarantees that legacy gear won't be bricked. 

     

     

    Enthusiast II
    January 22, 2020

    And why would I buy any more of your products to replace my ZP100 and ZP80’s - you'll just stop supporting them too. 

     

    I wouldn’t trust Sonos now as far as I could throw them.

    Enthusiast I
    January 22, 2020

     

    They should be developing their software so it can see older hardware and provide the reduced feature set to them. That doesn’t include taking away a feature it already has and managed perfectly well…. streaming a music service provider. That requires ZERO extra cpu/memory power.

     

    That’s exactly correct, and it’s obvious they’re lying if they say it’s impossible.

    However what it would be for them is “unprofitable”, where holding people ransom will be profitable provided enough customers simply acquiesce.

    The environmental vandalism alone is absolutely outrageous, it’s not like the new Sonos units are built from the recycled units, and much of the finite resources will end up in landfill.

    Letting them get away with this behaviour and make a profit from it would just embolden other companies to do the same.

    Lyricist I
    January 22, 2020

    This is incredible behaviour from the company!  I would understand a need to replace the bridge to update entire system or taking products to ”hard updates” but to force sell with a threat of entire system becoming obsolete is outrageous.  I have close to ten different peaces and latest ones bought as late a october.  The rebate and the process is insufficient for upgrade.  I strongly urge the company to shape up and start acting responsibly.  For me to spend €1000 to maintain current system is serious enough to consider leaving Sonos all together.  

    Enthusiast II
    January 22, 2020

    I have re-worded the email that Sonos sent me as an open letter reply to them…..

     

    Your loyal customer base requires attention
    From May, a lot of your loyal customers will  have some units classified as legacy and no longer receive software updates and new features. This will affect your share price.

    Please note that because Sonos customers are loyal, it does not mean that we will continue to buy your products.  If modern products that remain connected to legacy products after May, do not update, then your company is likely to fail.


    You have options

    Develop a method so that the system can continue using legacy products even if that means reducing functionality on those legacy products.  Most of us just want them to play good music.

    You can continue down your current business model.  However, in May 2020, if our systems no longer receive software updates and new features then over time, this is likely to disrupt access to your revenue and ultimately the performance of your stock.

    Trade up legacy products
    Recognise your early adopters, champions and advocates with a much more generous trade up offer.  Also be mindful of the environment.  Deliberately bricking hardware via your trade up scheme is wasteful and unethical.  Consider hardware upgrades or not bricking at all.

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    Trending Lyricist I
    January 22, 2020

    This is the 3rd or 4th time Sonos has pulled this not supporting Legacy products that I know of. I am sure there are more instances because I do not read the forums that much. Seems like there are alot more people affected by it this time round though.

    Its a cash grab and a huge waste of perfectly good equipment. It will happen again too.

    Will never trust this company again.