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Caroline V.
Retired Community Manager
August 1, 2022

14.12 Update

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Changes to volume mapping and impact on Sub output

 

Thank you for your feedback regarding the recent 14.12 software update with Enhanced Clarity for Arc. 

 

In this update, we made a change to Arc’s audio profile to improve dialogue clarity and the overall sound experience. This change is based on feedback from our listeners in the field and brings Arc in line with our other Home Theater products, resulting in a more accurate representation of the sound as intended by the content creator. 

 

The updated tuning adjusts the spectral balance of Arc+Sub to achieve a more accurate representation of the sound and an improved sound experience. While the Arc+Sub output capability remains the same,  the mapping of volume across the 0-100% range has been adjusted with this release which means low and mid volume levels are relatively lower compared to the previous tuning so you may need to adjust the volume slider to achieve your pre-update volume level. The maximum volume and bass output are unchanged. We acknowledge that this change was not made more clear in the release notes and in the future we’ll be sure to make sure we communicate these rare changes more effectively. 

 

Please note, we have identified an issue for some users of Arc, Beam and Ray whose configuration includes a Sub (with or without surrounds), who may find their Sub output is lower than desired after performing a new Trueplay tuning. 

 

Users with Beam or Ray bonded with Sub can increase the Sub level for a more powerful low-end response, however this won’t have the same impact for Arc users. Customers using Arc bonded with a Sub (and/or surrounds) who find their Sub output is lower than desired following performing a new Trueplay tuning, should temporarily disable Trueplay on Arc until this is addressed by an upcoming software update. 

 

Trueplay tunings for Home Theater configurations without a bonded Sub are unaffected, including standalone soundbars and those bonded with surrounds only.   

 


 

If you would like any assistance adjusting the sound of your Home Theater setup, the community is here to help. You can also contact Sonos support.

 

Moderation edit:

With the 14.18 software update, the above mentioned issues have been addressed, and the Enhanced Clarity for Arc adjustments are retained. There was a clear preference within our community for the previous volume settings, and these have been restored. This will be apparent immediately after updating to 14.18. The Trueplay issue has been fixed. Customers who experienced a lower Sub level after performing Trueplay after updating to 14.12 will need to update their systems and then perform a new Trueplay tuning in order to address these improvements in their system. Customers will hear a more powerful low end response, meaning any Sub level adjustments made after 14.12 should no longer be required.

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948 replies

Lyricist III
September 22, 2022

I’m assuming red & yellow are different as the phones were not in exact same positions when waved for each of the Trueplays, ie if you did 2 Trueplays with same phone you would still see a slight difference?

Mic is on the same position, and i walked the same way. I wanted to see if there is any difference between the phones, because i liked the sound more yesterday when i used SE 2 for first time.
Still the low frequencies are reduced (the sub peak is at 85HZ), but the overall sound is better than the previous firmware. At least there are more lower frequencies.
I do not commit anyone to my measurements nor do I claim to be right because every room is different. I decided to share my impressions, because it may help some of you while we wait for the final fix.
 

Local Superstar
September 22, 2022


I do not commit anyone to my measurements nor do I claim to be right because every room is different..

I agree, and  of course, every pair of ears will also have a different frequency response.

 

Enthusiast I
September 22, 2022

I know Sonos has clearly said that the updates has not addressed the sub issue, but with true play on mine does sound a little punchier than before. The bass sounds a little more richer and fuller. Also, I do have a subwoofer on both sides of the rooms which are set to 0. Having 2  subs will also increase the fullness and richness of the bass. I’m still waiting for Sonos to directly release a software that addresses  this ongoing issue though.

Enthusiast II
September 23, 2022

I know Sonos has clearly said that the updates has not addressed the sub issue, but with true play on mine does sound a little punchier than before. The bass sounds a little more richer and fuller. Also, I do have a subwoofer on both sides of the rooms which are set to 0. Having 2  subs will also increase the fullness and richness of the bass. I’m still waiting for Sonos to directly release a software that addresses  this ongoing issue though.

 

I do tend to agree on this one; sub sounds a bit better but the Arc isnt 100% at all. Might be placebo.

Lyricist III
September 23, 2022

Coincidentally stumpled upon this thread. My Arc/2xOne/Sub combination is still on 14.8 while my iPhone app is on 14.14, so I expect I should wait this one out? ;) 

Enthusiast II
September 23, 2022

Coincidentally stumpled upon this thread. My Arc/2xOne/Sub combination is still on 14.8 while my iPhone app is on 14.14, so I expect I should wait this one out? ;) 

Hell yeh!

Enthusiast II
September 23, 2022

I know Sonos has clearly said that the updates has not addressed the sub issue, but with true play on mine does sound a little punchier than before. The bass sounds a little more richer and fuller. Also, I do have a subwoofer on both sides of the rooms which are set to 0. Having 2  subs will also increase the fullness and richness of the bass. I’m still waiting for Sonos to directly release a software that addresses  this ongoing issue though.

 

I do tend to agree on this one; sub sounds a bit better but the Arc isnt 100% at all. Might be placebo.

I hate to say this but! I have tested several bass test songs now AND the bass is better with trueplay on. I have NOT Done a new trueplay with 14.16 though.

The bass is no way near as good as 14.10 but better with trueplay on for me right now.

 

I can feel it in my ass sittning in the sofa comparing trueplay on/off…

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Prodigy III
September 23, 2022

I know Sonos has clearly said that the updates has not addressed the sub issue, but with true play on mine does sound a little punchier than before. The bass sounds a little more richer and fuller. Also, I do have a subwoofer on both sides of the rooms which are set to 0. Having 2  subs will also increase the fullness and richness of the bass. I’m still waiting for Sonos to directly release a software that addresses  this ongoing issue though.

 

I do tend to agree on this one; sub sounds a bit better but the Arc isnt 100% at all. Might be placebo.

I hate to say this but! I have tested several bass test songs now AND the bass is better with trueplay on. I have NOT Done a new trueplay with 14.16 though.

The bass is no way near as good as 14.10 but better with trueplay on for me right now.

 

I can feel it in my ass sittning in the sofa comparing trueplay on/off…

Unfortunately for me the opposite is true, I am more concerned about the sound signature than the bass though 😩

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Trending Lyricist I
September 23, 2022

Switching off trueplay makes pretty much no difference in my case. The lower bass is still completely absent. So I don’t even have a workaround. This is a terrible customer experience, and I cannot possibly recommend Sonos to anyone ever again.

Prominent Collaborator I
September 23, 2022

Switching off trueplay makes pretty much no difference in my case. The lower bass is still completely absent. So I don’t even have a workaround. This is a terrible customer experience, and I cannot possibly recommend Sonos to anyone ever again.

I had the same after I ran patch 14.16. This morning I did a factory reset on the Arc, one SL’s and Sub gen 3 and re-added everything again. 
Now with Trueplay off, it’s acceptable, but far from good. Haven’t tried Trueplay yet.