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jishi
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September 3, 2013

Spotify Connect, serious competition

  • September 3, 2013
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Spotify today announced Spotify Connect, which will be a series of hardware from well-known hardware to seamlessly integrate spotify onto devices where the control is from the regular Spotify application on your phone or similar.

Streaming is still done directly through internet, so the phone isn't in charge of it, just controls it.

I really do hope that Sonos will follow this approach as well, I believe there are a lot more like me that primarily uses Sonos for Spotify, and being able to use the same app as always would be awesome.

Seems like there is already a feature request over at ask.sonos.com https://ask.sonos.com/sonos/topics/support_spotify_connect_to_allow_users_to_use_the_spotify_app_as_the_controller
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      wappinghigh
      Avid Contributor I
      October 28, 2014
      If Spotify can get "Connect" happening in Sync with multiple devices.... why is there any need for Sonos at all?

      Sonos:

      No 24 bit
      No software zone
      No throw track from iphone to another device..
      Locked down development: inhibiting embedment of playback into other devices

      Spotify Connect (with multiroom sync)

      Potentially 24 bit
      Software (win/ios/android/OSX) zone
      Pick up from iphone and throw to another zone..
      Open source encouragement of embedment into other hardware
      the_lhc
      Avid Contributor I
      October 28, 2014
      Spotify Connect (with multiroom sync)

      Potentially 24 bit

      Really? In what way? Spotify doesn't even stream lossless 16-bit audio yet, suggesting it may support 24-bit is a ridiculous thing to say.
      wappinghigh
      Avid Contributor I
      October 28, 2014
      http://www.engadget.com/2014/06/09/spotify-now-handles-multi-room-streaming-on-samsung-devices/

      I posted this in another thread, but it is interesting that you can now play to multiple rooms at once with Spotify Connect on the Samsung Shape speaker system.

      ^ ...Yes and with Bluesound as well.. (24 bit capable)
      wappinghigh
      Avid Contributor I
      October 28, 2014
      I'm telling you I believe Sonos is in trouble on this.

      If they fight Spotify: they will lose.

      I'm with everyone who thinks: Wake up Sonos!!!

      The Spotify music experience is NOT hardware dependant for playback . The Sonos one is.

      Game over IMHO, Unless Sonos radically changes their attitude.. and FAST....
      buzz
      buzz
      Grand Maestro
      October 28, 2014
      The SONOS control API has been open since day one. Anyone who understands UPnP can control SONOS. Check The Unsupported Area for some project ideas.

      Also, SONOS has used 24 bits internally since day one. While 24 and 32 bits are very handy during production in the studio, other than satisfying a fundamentalist marketing "check box", no one has been able to construct a peer reviewed experimental protocol that can demonstrate any benefit to rendering the music in 24 bits. Sending 24 bits over the network, particularly a wireless network, will downgrade overall system scope and robustness. One of the reasons why a SONOS works as well as it does is because the networking is so robust. This is the real reason why SONOS is the market leader.

      If the fundamentalists win the 24-bit "check box" war, we will experience more connectivity issues and it will be a hollow "win".

      Besides, why settle for 192/24 when 384/32 is available and playback equipment already exists?
      wappinghigh
      Avid Contributor I
      October 28, 2014
      ^ Ok..

      Then take out the 24 bit comment.

      They will lose vs Spotify Connect in 16 bit..

      Sonos is in trouble with this... even in 16 bit....

      Serious trouble IMHO..
      wappinghigh
      Avid Contributor I
      October 28, 2014
      Because suddenly the entire Sonos experience becomes irrelevant...

      A Spotify user doesn't need Sonos anymore...

      Next it will be a Pandora user who doesn't need Sonos..

      Then a Rdio user..

      (...if All the streaming services start following Spotify with a similar "connect" offering......)
      wappinghigh
      Avid Contributor I
      October 28, 2014
      Is Sonos going to fight *every* music streaming service?
      GreenI
      GreenI
      Avid Contributor I
      October 28, 2014
      We should have a special part of the Forum where every disgruntled / disillusioned Sonos owner can sell their equipment cheaply to the rest of us (happy/contented Sonos customers) ... while they still have the chance and the market crashes 😃
      wappinghigh
      Avid Contributor I
      October 28, 2014
      ^
      It's a very fast changing world out there..

      Sonos is crazy not to take this extremely seriously.....
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