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pwt
Virtuoso
June 8, 2017

Hey Siri, ...

- Hey Siri, can I have a HomePod today?
- Hey Siri, can I get a HomePod subwoofer?
- Hey Siri, can I get a HomePod 5.1 system?
- Hey Siri, does HomePod sound as good as a SONOS PLAY:5?
- Hey Siri, do you have an Ethernet port? (Or do I need something from Apple Dongle Universe?)
- Hey Siri, can I use Alexa, Google Home or Cortana?
- Hey Siri, play a track from Spotify
- Hey Siri, play a track from Deezer
- Hey Siri, play a track from Tidal
- Hey Siri, play a track from Amazon Music
- Hey Siri, OK, play a track from anywhere other than Apple Music
- Hey Siri, play a track from one of my local music collections
- Hey Siri, can I plug in my turntable?
- Hey Siri, can you create your own dedicated WiFi network?
- Hey Siri, is there an Android controller app.?
- Hey Siri, …

Siri says ‘No’.

I love all my Apple gear, in which I have much more money invested than in Sonos. I’m sure HomePod will be very nice and will take sales away from Sonos and others. However, depending on what you want to do, there’s really some clear water between what Sonos has today, what Sonos will have once Alexa integration lands, and what Apple won’t even have for another six months (at least).

Innovation is good. Competition is good. Growing the market is good.
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    pwt
    pwtAuthor
    Virtuoso
    June 16, 2017
    hpl: your logic appears to be:
    - I set up an Apple multi-room system, and it sucked
    - I set up a Sonos multi-room system, and it doesn't suck
    - I'm now going to ditch Sonos for another Apple system which doesn't even exist yet

    Genius.
    4 x P:5 | Sub | 4 x P:1 | 3 x Connect | 2 x Boost | Connect:Amp | 2 x One | Amp | Move | Port | Era 300
    Lyricist III
    June 16, 2017
    Well, I guess my point is: it's started to suck. Also note, the whole point of my post was a plea to Sonos to come up with a solution that allows me to stay with Sonos, not that I'm going to get whatever Apple's coming up with. I don't think Apple is all that great; I think I'd be quite happy with Windows on the PC and Android on the phone - but at this point I'm far to invested (materially, not emotionally) to change that side of the equation. If Sonos gets their act together, I'll keep my Sonos stuff; if not, not.
    jgatie
    June 16, 2017
    Nicely put - but yep, that's how it is. The lack of voice control was always annoying, but not a big deal as long as there was no alternative. At this point, what bothers me is that Sonos seems to be dragging their feet. If they don't prioritize this issue, I think it will hurt them badly. Btw, I had registered when I first got my Sonos system, but not had the need to bother with the Sonos forums for five years or so, since I haven't had any problems after the initial set-up. Not sure why the website forced me to update my registration at this point.

    "The lack of voice control was always annoying"? I have to ask - "always"? Viable whole home voice control has existed for barely 2 years, beginning with the release of the Amazon Echo in June 2015. Sonos is realistically the only third party multi-room system to state they are going to implement it, never mind are actually working on it as we speak, and it has "always" bothered you for the "8 years" you claim to have owned Sonos? 8 years predates phone apps, never mind voice control, yet you were "always" annoyed by lack of voice control?

    Something is odoriferous in Odense.
    Lyricist II
    October 22, 2017
    Post above says it all - "locked into Apple eco-system" - Let the Apple Fans suffer as they try and hook their users with apple speakers and yet another closed product where they will be locked in. The Sonos community needs to support the future of AI with Cortana support.. When will this and other voice support be available?
    October 22, 2017
    Post above says it all - "locked into Apple eco-system" - Let the Apple Fans suffer as they try and hook their users with apple speakers and yet another closed product where they will be locked in. The Sonos community needs to support the future of AI with Cortana support.. When will this and other voice support be available?Sonos have stated that wish is to add other voice systems, with Google Home next in line. You aren't going to get any more than that out of them.
    Trending Lyricist I
    October 23, 2017
    yeah, after my experience with sonos software, i think ill just wait 6 months which was never an issue anyway.
    Erwin I
    Trending Lyricist I
    October 23, 2017
    I’ve been using Sonos for almost a year and I now have a 5.1 set up and I am continually adding Sonos throughout my home. Honestly, I am a big Apple fan and would have probably purchased the HomePod when it launches without hesitation but now that I am into the Sonos ecosystem, I would rather get a Play 5 for that price. My introduction to Sonos was thanks to Airmiles, I’ve noticed this product on their entertainment section and got curious. Bought the Play 3 through Airmiles and since then, I am hooked.

    I fee like Sonos needs to invest more in their marketing, especially with all the major tech companies seem to be interested in the market Sonos is in. Also, Google Home Max design looked a wee bit similar to the Sonos Play 3.
    ? Playbar, Sub, 2 Play:3, and Play:1 ?
    Prodigy I
    November 1, 2017

    I fee like Sonos needs to invest more in their marketing, especially with all the major tech companies seem to be interested in the market Sonos is in. Also, Google Home Max design looked a wee bit similar to the Sonos Play 3.

    For what it's worth, I don't think Amazon, Google, or Apple actually care about direct competition with Sonos. It's the same play that all tech companies have been trying to make for years; be the first interaction with everyone.

    Not unlike Android was the counter to the threat of iPhone interrupting the normal carrier-control of your experience, the counters of HomePod and Google Home speakers aren't about the speakers. Amazon disrupted the strangehold the major players had with the Echo, but the Echo was never anything more than a vehicle to get Alexa into your hands. Now that the value is established, you're going to see digital assistants showing up in everything.

    That's not to say these guys aren't still a real threat to Sonos. It's just a perspective that Sonos is simply taking some collateral damage in the fight between the largest tech companies in the world for access to customers.

    I don't know of any path Sonos could take other than their "embrace everyone" method. I hope they can pull it off, and despite the opinions of some, I think they can.