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October 2, 2017

Has Sonos become just another lousy tech company?

  • October 2, 2017
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Lately I've noticed more problems with Sonos. Maybe this isn't all on them, but if the problem comes from equipment that I bought from them then they own it, whether they like it or not.

We've had our system I guess about 2 years now. When I first got the system I felt like the company had personality, there were people there -- not just bots. They didn't feel like just another tech company with products that aren't made to last. They didn't feel like they were only going to be around until someone up the food chain buys them. I felt good about our investment.

Today, not so much.

Sonos feels like a tech company I've put way too much faith in, that I'm now way too dependent on. I think they know that.

Tech support is average at best. Today I was on hold for 20 minutes, then got dropped. I didn't bother calling back. I submitted a case, hopefully I'll get a reply.

The fact that I'm writing this bothers me. I've been in tech since 1989 and I hate what's happened to the business. Tech is full of companies who make throw away products. I hate that I depend on tech companies so much - iPhone, iThis and iThat. I hate the fact the tech companies refer to me as a "user", not a "customer". I hate that they treat me as such.

Going to the record store was better than downloading music. Going to my local hardware store was better than ordering from Amazon. Buying stereo gear from my local stereo store was better than buying from Sonos.

We complain about Trump, etc. But it's the tech companies who're ruining our world, taking away our freedom, influencing our minds, and destroying our economy. Our lives are controlled by the tech companies. If the terrorists were doing to us what the tech companies are, we'd declare war. Instead we line up early to buy from them, flash our newest phone around bling bling, we flock to them. We've become sheeple (sheep + people). Because of the tech companies and our insatiable desire for cheep and free, we're puppets on a string. An entire generation -- my kids -- have the lost any connection to interpersonal communications -- read, talk face to face. We've come to believe anything the tech companies tell us, like the new iPhone makes our lives better.

If we had any courage or any sense, we'd take our devices and throw them through their windows. Because it's not a new iPhone or upgrade we need, it's a new way of life. One where we don't depend on tech companies.

You don't find a tech company you love. You find a tech company you hate the least.

Give me back my encyclopedia, the record store, my paper phone book, my little stereo store. Give me back the camera store.

Because tech companies aren't making the world better.
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    Avid Contributor I
    October 2, 2017
    What I can't understand is why on earth I'm typing to you. It's insane.

    You'll defend your way of thinking at all costs -- it's what you do. It's your life. Have it.

    Take your digital brain, your love of all things tech and go fart in a puddle.
    jgatie
    October 2, 2017
    And with that, we are done! 😃
    Ryan S
    Retired Sonos Staff
    October 2, 2017
    Let's take a break here guys. It's fine to disagree and have polite conversation, but there's no need to attack anyone. Please keep it friendly everyone.

    Glad your system is heading toward behaving @spins backwards. If you have any concerns, trouble, or just want to chat, feel free to send me a private message if I can help with anything.
    Mark good posts by pressing the like button, and select the best answer on questions you've asked to help others find solutions.
    Lucid AV
    Prodigy I
    October 2, 2017
    Lately I've noticed more problems with Sonos. Maybe this isn't all on them, but if the problem comes from equipment that I bought from them then they own it, whether they like it or not.

    We've had our system I guess about 2 years now. When I first got the system I felt like the company had personality, there were people there -- not just bots. They didn't feel like just another tech company with products that aren't made to last. They didn't feel like they were only going to be around until someone up the food chain buys them. I felt good about our investment.

    Today, not so much.

    Sonos feels like a tech company I've put way too much faith in, that I'm now way too dependent on. I think they know that.

    Tech support is average at best. Today I was on hold for 20 minutes, then got dropped. I didn't bother calling back. I submitted a case, hopefully I'll get a reply.

    The fact that I'm writing this bothers me. I've been in tech since 1989 and I hate what's happened to the business. Tech is full of companies who make throw away products. I hate that I depend on tech companies so much - iPhone, iThis and iThat. I hate the fact the tech companies refer to me as a "user", not a "customer". I hate that they treat me as such.

    Going to the record store was better than downloading music. Going to my local hardware store was better than ordering from Amazon. Buying stereo gear from my local stereo store was better than buying from Sonos.

    We complain about Trump, etc. But it's the tech companies who're ruining our world, taking away our freedom, influencing our minds, and destroying our economy. Our lives are controlled by the tech companies. If the terrorists were doing to us what the tech companies are, we'd declare war. Instead we line up early to buy from them, flash our newest phone around bling bling, we flock to them. We've become sheeple (sheep + people). Because of the tech companies and our insatiable desire for cheep and free, we're puppets on a string. An entire generation -- my kids -- have the lost any connection to interpersonal communications -- read, talk face to face. We've come to believe anything the tech companies tell us, like the new iPhone makes our lives better.

    If we had any courage or any sense, we'd take our devices and throw them through their windows. Because it's not a new iPhone or upgrade we need, it's a new way of life. One where we don't depend on tech companies.

    You don't find a tech company you love. You find a tech company you hate the least.

    Give me back my encyclopedia, the record store, my paper phone book, my little stereo store. Give me back the camera store.

    Because tech companies aren't making the world better.


    Comments such as "Going to the record store was better than downloading music. Going to my local hardware store was better than ordering from Amazon. Buying stereo gear from my local stereo store was better than buying from Sonos." suggest to me you're mourning your loss of connection with people.

    You can still go to the record store or hardware store or Hi-Fi shop. I do all three.

    Tech for it's own sake is ultimately an empty pursuit. I learned that the hard way with my Hi-Fi. Too many stores where they just wanted me to walk out with a box under my arm. It took a while, but I connected back with people in the trade who had passion and knowledge. I fell in love with music again rather than the gear it's played on.

    Sonos isn't Hi-Fi. Sorry if that's heresy to some folk, but it's not. It's a computer peripheral that makes jukeboxing your music collection easy. (Come to think of it, a lot of what's sold as Hi-Fi isn't Hi-Fi either, but that's a different conversation.) I get more enjoyment out of listening to an album played from CD or my turntable than I do with my Sonos or any other streaming gear. The reason is simple, other than the fidelity I enjoy the moment more. I'm not distracted by wondering what track to play next. The music flows and I take it as it comes. It's about being happy with what I've got.
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    Avid Contributor I
    October 4, 2017
    It's not fair to only tell one side of the story. Or to complain, then leave out some of the story.

    I got this from a friend today asking me about Sonos. Here's the thread, word for word:

    On Oct 4, 2017, at 1:32 PM, Jeff wrote:

    Amazon Alexa built into a Sonos speaker. That’s an interesting evolution. What do you think? Do you have experience with either product?

    >>> My reply:
    The “ask Alexa” or Apple’s new thing doesn’t interest me as of yet.

    I have a full Sonos system - 2 X 5.1’s, a Playbar, and Sub. It’s great. It doesn’t have the power of my Denon, wired system, but I’m not sure I need that now. The sound my Sonos system puts out is good. And I can turn it up loud enough to go old school, shake it.

    Sometimes their updates fubar me, but they’re quick to push out fixes — most times the same day. That’s impressive.

    After a couple of sound issues with my new TV + DirecTV I was wondering if Sonos really was a great company, or just another lousy tech company. I even sent a note up the chain to their CEO. I was shocked to get a reply from him. His reply reignited my faith in Sonos.

    Denon now has a wireless setup that’s supposed to be the bomb, albeit more expensive — full system approaching $5k, more than Sonos.

    Would I add to my Sonos system, invest more in Sonos? As of right now and all things being equal I have no reason not to.
    jgatie
    October 4, 2017
    The day I base my acceptance or rejection of any piece of technology on the warm fuzzies I get from a personal interaction with the CEO is the day I'm the one who takes off to a cabin in the woods. I tend to rate my tech on silly little things like does it work, and how it enhances my life. But to each his own.