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Stuart_W
World-Class Superstar
September 22, 2023

Escalation of support when phone support cannot resolve

I have 14 Sonos units (1 unplugged) and have over recent years experienced poorer performance with multiple drop-outs, refusal to connect, lost speakers and so on.

I’ve spent a lot of time with telephone support but feel progress is slow. Over the ears I’ve been told to

 

  1. Replace Bridge with Boost
  2. Wire a Sonos unit to router
  3. Remove Boost
  4. Un-wire Sonos unit and connect directly to Wi-Fi
  5. Then more recently it was gently suggested I consider a Wi-Fi mesh would be a good idea - I duly bought a TP-Link system and then when I continued to have issues Sonos suggested I change the channel only to discover this system chooses automatically and cannot change manually.
  6. Wire a unit - After that last suggestion last week I decided to move one of the TP-Link nodes near my new ERA 100s and wire that. - Nope. Need additional hardware to do that now. So I connected to one of my Play 3s (It means the node is not roughly midday between the main router and most distant ERA100 so presume not ideal).
     
  7. Then today I was told ideally I need to wire at least 2 units to a router. I noted this was the first time that had been suggested.

 

I recognise that Sonos units are having to work in an increasingly congested radio spectrum but I live in a small village so I can’t believe my spectrum is as congested as one in a city might be.

If wiring the SL One to the TP-Link node doesn’t resolve the major issues I’ve been having then I’m at the stage when I probably need somebody with good technical knowledge of the Sonos system, wireless networks and interference and who has access to a spectrum analyser and the Sonos diagnostic data. I’ve spent many thousands of pounds on this system and my expectation at this point is that Sonos should provide that on-site support - either Sonos people or they should sub-contract somebody on their behalf to contact me. But as it is they’ve just told me to find a nearby installer and engage them - obviously I can do that but it is going to cost me and frankly I’m pretty unhappy about that.

Are Sonos able to provide better support once telephone support has reached the end of what they can do? If I get asked to turn off and on all units one more time I might just implode!

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buzz
Grand Maestro
September 23, 2023

Yes I think keeping a log may be helpful to flush out if it’s a single issue. Maybe my neighbour’s caretake in rabbit microwaving orgies every few hours! 

When in diagnostic mode once you’ve decided that the problem must be [ … ] or cannot be [ … ] you are likely to be blindsided.

In my teens there was a TV channel from a city in the next state that was difficult to watch due to visible interference. We lived on a hill and receiving the station was practical with an outside antenna. At the top of the hill was an FM station. The FM station was not on the air 24/7 and when the FM station was not broadcasting, the TV picture was clear. This was an issue for everyone in the area while attempting to watch that channel, it was not a specific issue with our TV. Using a little radio theory and some math it was easy to predict the interference. The station management did not enjoy having a teen show up at the station, complaining about their interference. I was dismissed. One day for several hours I noticed that the interference was gone while the FM station was on the air. My interference theory was smashed. However, after applying some more math and additional research, I discovered a taxi company transmitter that was inline between our antenna and the TV station and, after applying the math, I could show that the taxi frequency, combined with the FM transmitter, would result in interference with the TV station. Not long after my discovery we moved out of that area and left the problem behind.

Bottom line: keep an open mind.

Stuart_W
Stuart_WAuthor
World-Class Superstar
November 21, 2023

I wanted to update this thread.

 

Sonos reached out to me via e-mail and asked me to arrange a time for a phone call. On the day the chap I’d expected to call couldn’t due to an internet outage but I did get a call and I ran a load of scenarios for them to gather diagnostic data. They asked me to remove the hardwired Playbar and re-enable Wi-Fi, remove the sub. I ran that for several days and then they asked me to remove the surrounds. This went on for 2 to 3 weeks and eventually the Playbar actually stopped responding at all after it had begun to emit regular clicking whilst watching TV (At this point I decided the Playbar had a hardware fault). Sonos were adamant that this wan’t the case and the escalated support were very cold on the notion of wireless interference which I was happy about.

 

Ultimately it was escalated further a which point it was determined that “The Playbar hadn’t updated”. At this point you might well imagine I had some questions but I have to say support were very fair with me so I didn’t explore this avenue at all.

I now have a refurbished Arc, Gen 1 Sub and Play 1 surrounds. I do have some media with Atmos so I expect I’ll end up replacing the Play 1s with Era300s as the pull will be high!

Arc + Sub (Gen 1) + 2 x Play 1/ Stereo Play 3s/ Era 100 Stereo in Kitchen, One Stereo in Bedroom, Play 1 stereo pair in Study, Play 1in Bathroom, Sonos Move 2