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BoboBob
Trending Lyricist I
November 24, 2025

Surround Placement

I’ll be moving to a new house soon.  In the basement is a rec room where we will install a TV and we would like some decent audio.  I currently have a 5.1 system with towers and a big center, on-wall surrounds, and a receiver but looking to make things easy in the new house, one remote (Apple TV) and a clean install.  Plan is an Arc Ultra on the built-in cabinet, with a Sub 4 on the floor.  The sofa will be right against the back wall so there is no room for surrounds on stands.  I can wall mount or ceiling mount, though I don’t know the best location.  I have ordered Era 300s and hope to use those, but maybe an Amp with some 3-rd party surround speakers might be the better option?  It looks like I have some conduit in the ceiling, though placement is odd about midway between the TV wall and the back wall.  I may be able to run power to the Era 300s via this conduit or speaker wire to the Amp.  

Room will be used for TV, movies, and games.  Music isn’t really a big concern. 

If the recommendation is the 300s, where should I put them?  On the ceiling mid way, upside down and facing the back wall?  On the ceiling but mount them on the back wall facing forward?  On the side wall?

If regular on-wall surrounds are the better option with an Amp I can go that route as well. 

Overall room layout.  Sofa will be against the back wall, cabinet up front is built-in.
Floor plan view, room has an opening on one side and window on the other.  Room entry from the back, open with no door.  

 

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22 replies

AjTrek1
November 25, 2025

My suggestion is to wall mount behind the Sofa to extreme left and right as much as possible. Sonos doesn’t sell “regular on-wall surrounds” driven by an Amp...whatever they are 😂. Sonos does sell In-wall speakers by Sonance.

Wall Mount Instructions for Era 100

Wall Mount Instructions for Era 300

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BoboBob
BoboBobAuthor
Trending Lyricist I
November 25, 2025

Ok, if Era300 then on the back wall, upside down, and close to the ceiling?  
 

I know Sonos doesn’t sell on-wall surrounds.  That’s why I said maybe going with 3rd party surrounds with a Sonos Amp?  Maybe I should just add those for a clean install.  Would I just put 2 speakers over the sofa?
 

AjTrek1
November 25, 2025

Ok, if Era300 then on the back wall, upside down, and close to the ceiling?  
 

I know Sonos doesn’t sell on-wall surrounds.  That’s why I said maybe going with 3rd party surrounds with a Sonos Amp?  Maybe I should just add those for a clean install.  Would I just put 2 speakers over the sofa?
 

My apologies as I was speaking of the “on-wal surrounds” in jest. To answer your question…

Era 300’s would an excellent choice. As to whether or not you need to invert them for mounting depends upon high they need to be mounted on the wall to void interfering with seated individuals. Typically 6 feet above floor level as long as you don’t encroach upon the 2 foot recommended ceiling clearance.

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Stanley_4
Grand Maestro
November 25, 2025

The 300s are going to give you Atmos surrounds while almost every other option won't.

100s have very limited Atmos compared to the 300s and wouldn't be on my list of preferred options. I am using them here for other reasons and while they are acceptable they are a distant second choice to the 300s.

As to mounting,  make some temporary stands and try different heights and inverted.

BoboBob
BoboBobAuthor
Trending Lyricist I
November 25, 2025

Ok, if Era300 then on the back wall, upside down, and close to the ceiling?  
 

I know Sonos doesn’t sell on-wall surrounds.  That’s why I said maybe going with 3rd party surrounds with a Sonos Amp?  Maybe I should just add those for a clean install.  Would I just put 2 speakers over the sofa?
 

My apologies as I was speaking of the “on-wal surrounds” in jest. To answer your question…

Era 300’s would an excellent choice. As to whether or not you need to invert them for mounting depends upon high they need to be mounted on the wall to void interfering with seated individuals. Typically 6 feet above floor level as long as you don’t encroach upon the 2 foot recommended ceiling clearance.

All good, I was just commenting on the various options out there.

  1. Era 300 with maybe suboptimal placement
  2. Sonance in-ceiling speakers above the listening position connected to Amp
  3. 3-rd party in-ceiling or on-wall connected to Amp

From a WAF perspective, option 2 is the best, followed by 3.  Era 300’s are not small and might look a bit wonky mounted over a sofa on the back wall. The basement ceiling is 8’.

The question is what is going to sound better, Era300 or Sonance?  I think your suggestion is to put the Era’s above the sofa on the back wall pointing at the screen (upside down so the Atmos drivers are down firing), right? Shown here in green.  

 

 

BoboBob
BoboBobAuthor
Trending Lyricist I
November 25, 2025

The 300s are going to give you Atmos surrounds while almost every other option won't.

100s have very limited Atmos compared to the 300s and wouldn't be on my list of preferred options. I am using them here for other reasons and while they are acceptable they are a distant second choice to the 300s.

As to mounting,  make some temporary stands and try different heights and inverted.

Would that be true if I ran Sonance in-ceiling speakers connected to an Amp and paired with the Arc Ultra? 

AjTrek1
November 25, 2025

The Era 300’s are the only speakers that will allow Full Immersion when used with the Arc Ultra for Dolby Atmos.

Using stands as suggested by ​@Stanley_4 is OK to compare Era 100’s and Era 300’s. You can’t accurately compare in-ceiling or in-wall speakers using stands as they need to be fully enclosed for optimal performance.

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Triticale
Prodigy II
November 25, 2025

I’ve the Era 300 just in the corners of the sofa (which is placed in a wall like you) more or less at the head’s level and they perform great. I turned them 20 degrees to the listener position.

In your case perhaps the wall mounted could be the best solution, but you can also try with the stands. For the corner it will fit, but the other side perhaps it’s not nice for you to see it while you enter in the living room. 

I don’t see the ceiling solution as the best option to enjoy surround…

Stanley_4
Grand Maestro
November 25, 2025

The 300s are going to give you Atmos surrounds while almost every other option won't.

100s have very limited Atmos compared to the 300s and wouldn't be on my list of preferred options. I am using them here for other reasons and while they are acceptable they are a distant second choice to the 300s.

As to mounting,  make some temporary stands and try different heights and inverted.

Would that be true if I ran Sonance in-ceiling speakers connected to an Amp and paired with the Arc Ultra? 

The Amp is only two channels, no matter what it is hooked to that is all it can provide.

The 300s are multi channel Atmos speakers, check the store page to see all the details and pictures. Yes, channel is the wrong word here but it is close enough.

BoboBob
BoboBobAuthor
Trending Lyricist I
November 25, 2025

I’ve the Era 300 just in the corners of the sofa (which is placed in a wall like you) more or less at the head’s level and they perform great. I turned them 20 degrees to the listener position.

In your case perhaps the wall mounted could be the best solution, but you can also try with the stands. For the corner it will fit, but the other side perhaps it’s not nice for you to see it while you enter in the living room. 

I don’t see the ceiling solution as the best option to enjoy surround…

That is my dilemma, I don’t have all of these speakers to test with.  

The room has a back wall but only once side wall.  The other wall is not ideal as it’s where you walk and having a big speaker 6’ off the ground right there is not workable unfortunately.  

The ceiling solution is maybe not the best, but I’m starting to think it may be my only option.  When the Amp and two speakers are paired with the Arc Ultra, what audio channels go to the surrounds?  Only the left/right surround channels or do the various other Atmos channels also get sent to the surrounds?