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I have an older Samsung TV without an optical port or HDMI earc or arc.  I have a brand new apple TV 4k,  What is the best way to hook this up to get the best sound?  Do I hook up Apple TV to HDMI on TV and then run a HDMI from TV to Apple TV?  Neither of my HDMI ports are arc

If your TV has no optical or ARC connection, you will need to use a separate ARC audio extractor like the HD Fury Arcana or Feintech VAX04101A.