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sonos arc ultra and DTS

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hi there. I need a definitive answer from the Sonos community, as this will dictate whether or not I spend the money for the Sonos arc ultra and associated speakers. I possess a lot of Blu-ray discs, which some of them only have the English audio track in DTS audio. I have been getting differing answers on this, so I would like to know if The arc ultra does in fact support DTS/X audio? Thank you!

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Sonos supports lossy DTS Digital Surround audio but not lossless DTS-HD Master Audio or DTS:X. When playing a DTS-encoded Blu-ray disc, you can either set your player to play the core DTS Digital Surround audio track or set the player to convert the DTS audio to PCM resulting in lossless Multichannel PCM audio. Keep in mind that to do the former, your TV must support DTS pass through. To do the latter, your TV must be equipped with eARC and support LPCM passthrough.

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GuyinPA75

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Even if Sonos would support more DTS formats LG and Samsung in recent years haven’t supported pass through for DTS. So even if you think DTS sounds better than DD, Sonos is not alone in this.

And, after all, it is Sonos’ choice to not support DTS. If enough people tells that’s why they are not buying Sonos, Sonos will change. I do see interest in DTS waning though, so wouldn’t hold my breath.

Plus, I truly, absolutely, believe Sonos is purposefully being cheap with their customers.

Even if more ask for DTS support, Sonos will not do it to save money. If anything Sonos needs to earn their good will back with customers. Supporting DTS:X be tremendous first step in doing so.

The entire app debacle did Sonos ZERO favors.

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nik9669a

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In the interest of balance on this thread, if DTS:X licensing means an increase in Sonos prices, I vote against supporting DTS:X. Lossless technology is lossless, and is already available, as I understand it.

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nik9669a

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This thread has drifted somewhat from the original post. 😜

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GuyinPA75

Enthusiast I

In the interest of balance on this thread, if DTS:X licensing means an increase in Sonos prices, I vote against supporting DTS:X. Lossless technology is lossless, and is already available, as I understand it.

Your fear of increased prices possibly not need be a worry.

If rumors were true (of course, take rumors with grain of salt) the Pinewood streaming box product, Sonos had in development very well could been major product for Sonos customers. It’s potential to allow DTS be sold as an app that customers could bought and that solved the entire DTS issue. Another rumor was Pinewood would allow customers to purchase, say pair of Era 300s, to use as front speakers. Which let Sonos sell even more add-on speakers. Win/win for all involved.

Just those two features above would have me purchasing Pinewood on day one. Pre-order, actually.

I so love how people continue to say, “Lossless technology is lossless, and is already available, as I understand it.” Ok? Maybe what those people, are NOT understanding is, what about people’s collection of movies that NOT have Atmos, but DTS:X?

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nik9669a

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In the interest of balance on this thread, if DTS:X licensing means an increase in Sonos prices, I vote against supporting DTS:X. Lossless technology is lossless, and is already available, as I understand it.

Your fear of increased prices possibly not need be a worry.

If rumors were true (of course, take rumors with grain of salt) the Pinewood streaming box product, Sonos had in development very well could been major product for Sonos customers. It’s potential to allow DTS be sold as an app that customers could bought and that solved the entire DTS issue. Another rumor was Pinewood would allow customers to purchase, say pair of Era 300s, to use as front speakers. Which let Sonos sell even more add-on speakers. Win/win for all involved.

Just those two features above would have me purchasing Pinewood on day one. Pre-order, actually.

I so love how people continue to say, “Lossless technology is lossless, and is already available, as I understand it.” Ok? Maybe what those people, are NOT understanding is, what about people’s collection of movies that NOT have Atmos, but DTS:X?

As you say, rumours are not fact so cannot be taken as such.

You do agree then that lossless is lossless?

Sonos have never supported DTS:X but you still chose to buy their products. Now you seem to expect them to support it. I’m sure the marketing team at Sonos have a better idea of the demand than we do; they’re not (yet?) offering it for a reason.

jgatie

Funny, yesterday I was ridiculed for saying lossless is lossless.

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GuyinPA75

Enthusiast I

You do agree then that lossless is lossless?

Sonos have never supported DTS:X but you still chose to buy their products. Now you seem to expect them to support it. I’m sure the marketing team at Sonos have a better idea of the demand than we do; they’re not (yet?) offering it for a reason.

That’s an apples and oranges question and my whole point.

It like asking, is a Ferrari and Chevette a car? The answer is, yes. But are they same quality? Not even on a good day.

Same goes for DTS and Atmos. DTS is preferred choice by many home theater enthusiasts and for good reason. Once spent good amount of time driving a Ferrari, you just aren’t going back to a Chevette.

But to touch again on Pinewood. If the features were not rumor, but fact, it been a tremendous product. Shame Sonos pushed out a broken app that not only tarnished their reputation, it ruined certain products from releasing.

Far as my expectations, let me ask you, when next Sonos update is available, with or without, new features and options. Will you update? You should not download any updates since are strongly against improvements and better features and only want the product purchased to be forever in its original state.

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nik9669a

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You are clearly adamant that there’s nothing better than DTS:X even though Sonos has never supported it. Why did you buy Sonos gear, @GuyinPA75?

jgatie

That’s an apples and oranges question and my whole point.

It like asking, is a Ferrari and Chevette a car? The answer is, yes. But are they same quality? Not even on a good day.

Same goes for DTS and Atmos. DTS is preferred choice by many home theater enthusiasts and for good reason. Once spent good amount of time driving a Ferrari, you just aren’t going back to a Chevette.

But to touch again on Pinewood. If the features were not rumor, but fact, it been a tremendous product. Shame Sonos pushed out a broken app that not only tarnished their reputation, it ruined certain products from releasing.

Far as my expectations, let me ask you, when next Sonos update is available, with or without, new features and options. Will you update? You should not download any updates since are strongly against improvements and better features and only want the product purchased to be forever in its original state.

If you start from the same master, you should be comparing a Ferrari to a Ferrari if both codecs are lossless. Which goes to what I stated: DTS cooks the master, and you could get the exact same sound from DD-TrueHD/Atmos.

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GuyinPA75

Enthusiast I

You are clearly adamant that there’s nothing better than DTS:X even though Sonos has never supported it. Why did you buy Sonos gear, @GuyinPA75?

How is hurting you that I am requesting this feature be brought to Sonos products? There are many requests for this in the forums. I am not the only one.

Do you update any products you own when updates are available? If so, why?

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