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Contributor I
July 26, 2023

Samsung Frame and Sonos Amp connected to same speakers?

  • July 26, 2023
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I renovating a new house and plan to install a Samsung Frame TV. I want upgraded TV sound, but don’t want a soundbar. I will have Sonos Amps hardwired to various speakers throughout the house, including a pair of in-wall speakers near the TV. I would like to be able to push TV sound through these in-wall speakers, and still be able to drive music through them from one of my Sonos Amps (but not at the same time of course). I have no idea how to set this up. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

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jgatie
January 18, 2024

I have a Samsung Frame and several Sonos AMPs driving passive speakers. I drive TV audio very successfully from the TV to any of the Sonos amps in my home. I use an inexpensive (£20ish on Amazon) TOSLINK optical to analogue RCA DAC to connect the optical out port of the Frame controller box to the analogue RCA ports on a SONOS Port. The Sonos Port can be configured to automatically stream the analogue signal from the DAC to any device on your Sonos network. You configure the audio out settings on your Frame to always send TV sound to the optical “out” DAC connection. The Frame will let you configure a delay (I use 150ms) that compensates for any latency in the Sonos network. It works flawlessly. Hope this helps! Your only consideration is that your TV remote can no longer control volume. For that, you must use the Sonos app - OR - use Alexa - OR use very very funky Apple Watch app called “LYD”

 

Or you could use a Sonos device which is actually designed for use with a TV.

106rallye
January 18, 2024

@nepeta You are adding a delay to the normal Sonos delay of 75ms? Or are you delaying images?

Lyricist II
January 19, 2024

Jgatie: this thread is for those who do not wish to (or can’t) use soundbars.

106rallye: delay images ? Looking at the three Sonos Ports I use for this purpose, the total audio delays (the sum of the delays set in each pair of  Port app and Samsung TV) is around 200ms. It is counterintuitive, I know, but having had success with my first Port/Samsung pair, I bought the other two. For interest, the ports drive 1) a pair of Sonos Ones, 2) a Sonos Amp and 3) a Sonos Move.

106rallye
January 19, 2024

Sonos ads a delay to the sound on any analogue input. Since you are using an analogue input you will have the delay, so your TV image will not be in sync with the sound, which is 70ms behind.

You state “The Frame will let you configure a delay (I use 150ms) that compensates for any latency in the Sonos network." You already have a delay, and seem to ad another, instead of cancelling out the Sonos delay. Or am I not following you? 

Lyricist II
January 19, 2024

I understand,  as I said, that it is counter intuitive! But it works. And lip sync is close to perfect.

We’ve taken this as far as I choose to go now. Thanks for your help. I hope mine may be useful to others.

jgatie
January 19, 2024

Jgatie: this thread is for those who do not wish to (or can’t) use soundbars.

 

 

You do know the Sonos Amp also does HDMI-ARC input and is specifically for those who don’t wish to use a soundbar?

 

Lyricist II
January 19, 2024

My Sonos Amps are in a wiring closet that is nowhere near the TVs. Next?

jgatie
January 19, 2024

My Sonos Amps are in a wiring closet that is nowhere near the TVs. Next?

 

My posts aren’t for your personal anecdotal situation.  Other people will come to this site, do a search, and get the idea this is an optimal solution.  It’s not, and that’s all I’m here to convey. 

Maui199Author
Contributor I
February 13, 2024

Last question (I hope): If I use both old Connect:Amps and new Amps together in my house, will I need to control them with two different versions of the Sonos App. Does this also mean that I can’t play the mismatched Amp zones together? Any other drawbacks to a mixed configuration?

Stanley_4
Grand Maestro
February 13, 2024

S1 and S2 won’t work together, no in sync playing or sharing of lists or accounts.

You’d need to check the Sonos FAQ to see which of your Sonos are S1 or S2 only and which can do both.

Lots of S1 / S2 stuff in the support FAQ.