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Avid Contributor I
January 19, 2024

Removing from and adding new products to a system

  • January 19, 2024
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Hello,

And thank you in advance for your help. I have this as my current Sonos system:

All physically in one space, but divided up into two rooms in the app.

Room One: Arc + a stereo pair of Move 2s

Room Two: Two Fives (set as surrounds) + 2 Sub 3s

I am about to purchase another set of Fives and for the time being, I would like to replace the two Moves. How would I best go about doing this? I want to put the two new Fives with the Arc. I haven’t messed around with removing products so I am hoping with guidance from some advanced Sonos users, I can avoid muddling my way and making a total mess of things. 

Any help is very much appreciated. Thank you in advance again. Cheers.

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jgatie
January 19, 2024

Room names are just labels, simply edit them to what you wish.  

Senior Virtuoso
January 19, 2024

I am puzzled by your description of the setup, @MG1214. The surrounds, if set up as surrounds, must be bonded to a home theatre device. Yet you describe them as being in a room without an Arc or Beam. Are they in fact a stereo pair? Or, what are they bonded to, to make them surrounds? 

MG1214Author
Avid Contributor I
January 19, 2024

I am puzzled by your description of the setup, @MG1214. The surrounds, if set up as surrounds, must be bonded to a home theatre device. Yet you describe them as being in a room without an Arc or Beam. Are they in fact a stereo pair? Or, what are they bonded to, to make them surrounds? 

Great question, thanks for asking. So truthfully I am a little confused myself. I do know that they are surrounds, and I remember when adding them in the application asked me if they were a stereo pair, and also about making them surrounds.

So based on your question, and the other poster above you, it really doesn’t matter, the Arc will act as the central reference point, so I could just remove the two Move’s add in the new Fives and then add a new room label if I wanted to have them on an independent volume slider. As it stands now I have two “rooms” so I could just add another room for the new Fives.

Thanks for asking the question, and thanks to jgatie as well. Cheers.

Senior Virtuoso
January 19, 2024

The Moves can’t be used as surround speakers. If you have the current Fives set as surrounds, they are already bonded to your Arc. 
 

In the Sonos app, can you stream music just to room 2? Or, which speakers do play when you stream just to room 2? 

Senior Virtuoso
January 19, 2024

In the app, go to Settings/System/About my System and scroll down. In the description, I think there will be something like 

Play:5 Room One (RS) 

in the system description. This says that a Play:5 is assigned as Right Surround to the room called Room One. There’ll be a similar entry for LS (Left Surround) too. 

MG1214Author
Avid Contributor I
January 19, 2024

The Moves can’t be used as surround speakers. If you have the current Fives set as surrounds, they are already bonded to your Arc. 
 

In the Sonos app, can you stream music just to room 2? Or, which speakers do play when you stream just to room 2? 

Thanks for the additional response,

I did know about the Moves not being able to act as surrounds, and yes the current pair of Fives are RS and LS. When I play music I make sure both rooms are playing. The speakers are all in one physical location. I like having individual volume sliders to control the mix of the speakers even more. It is a really great feature. 

I will look into bring the two Moves back into the system again down the road, I’ll just have to buy some stands for them. Maybe I’ll bite the bullet and order the stands from Sonos at the same time as I order the Fives. 

Thanks again for your input. Cheers.

Senior Virtuoso
January 19, 2024

No worries. Just be sure the surrounds are located correctly for rear sound effects to be in the correct spatial position! It might sound very confusing otherwise in a 5.1 movie. 
Any rooms grouped with a tv input playing to the group will have a slight delay, which you might hear as a kind of echo. If it isn’t worrying you, all is good: it’s your system. But the way Sonos works, it buffers a bit of audio when the system starts. It’s minimised to the room with the Arc to minimise lip sync issues, but is an inescapable element when grouping with additional rooms. 

MG1214Author
Avid Contributor I
January 19, 2024

No worries. Just be sure the surrounds are located correctly for rear sound effects to be in the correct spatial position! It might sound very confusing otherwise in a 5.1 movie. 
Any rooms grouped with a tv input playing to the group will have a slight delay, which you might hear as a kind of echo. If it isn’t worrying you, all is good: it’s your system. But the way Sonos works, it buffers a bit of audio when the system starts. It’s minimised to the room with the Arc to minimise lip sync issues, but is an inescapable element when grouping with additional rooms. 

Thanks. I use the system 99.9% for music, but I am starting to want to use it with movies and television. I thought I read that there is a way to override the buffering through the app? It would be nice if that was possible. 

Senior Virtuoso
January 19, 2024

Thanks. I use the system 99.9% for music, but I am starting to want to use it with movies and television. I thought I read that there is a way to override the buffering through the app? It would be nice if that was possible. 

Sorry: no, not possible. As I already said, the buffer is inherent within the system, in order to ensure seamless audio streaming. But, as I already said, for music it all plays in sync, and that’s by far your major use case. 

MG1214Author
Avid Contributor I
January 19, 2024

Thanks. I use the system 99.9% for music, but I am starting to want to use it with movies and television. I thought I read that there is a way to override the buffering through the app? It would be nice if that was possible. 

Sorry: no, not possible. As I already said, the buffer is inherent within the system, in order to ensure seamless audio streaming. But, as I already said, for music it all plays in sync, and that’s by far your major use case. 

So a follow-up question. If I was willing to forego surround sound, if all I needed for the few times I use speakers for television/movies, if I understand you correctly, if I have a room that contains say the Arc and a pair of Fives, as long as I play to only that room there would be no to little latency, so no echo effect?