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Trending Lyricist I
November 17, 2024

placement of era 300 in my tiny space opened on a large one, couch against wall

Hi there, here is my tiny home cinema space, and I need some advice please :)

As you can see, one side is closed and the other one (where I stand to take the photo) is open to a large room, next wall (behind me) is 4m20 from the end of the couch.
The wall of the tv is 2m50, the couch is 2m60.
Left wall and TV wall are 3m30 away.

I intend to switch my sennheiser ambeo max + B&W sub to a sonos arc ultra, mainly to use my ace headphone and avoid disturbing my daughter’s sleep.
I plan to add later a sub (maybe a mini so it could fit in my TV bench) and some surround speakers.
My choice would be the era 300 because I watch a lot of atmos content, but how to place them...
There is no more other half so I can do whatever I want :)
I was thinking about move a little forward the couch (maybe 30cm and improvise a home made thin shelf to fill the void), use stands or wall mount.
But if it’s ok I can just wall mount the era 300 without moving the couch.
Unfortunatly the era 300 would be very close to the painted wall, no a lot of choice ...

If it can serve the accoustics and symetry, I can add a vertical wood panel to “close” the couch, maybe 1m large, just enought to give a bounce surface to the era.
I could do the same near the TV to help the future arc ultra.

Any toughts ? Any advices ?

Thanks a lot !
 

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20 replies

Corry P
Sonos Staff
November 21, 2024

Hi ​@turbalf 

Bass is very difficult to locate audibly, so any position for a Sub should be fine in audio terms, as long as you are not occluding the unit - but even with the door/front open, I would assume that enclosing a Sub in a unit like that would diminish (or at least alter) the sound. To what degree, I don’t know.

I would assume, however, that if you were to put a Sub between the surrounds and place a shelf or similar above it, that would occlude the sound - at least a bit. Probably less that having it in the TV bench. There are sliders to adjust, however, so I would assume it would be ok, but proof is in the pudding, as they say - the only way to know for sure is to try it and see.

I am not a sales person and there’s no commission to be had, however, and that is a fairly enclosed space - my honest recommendation is to try out a movie with your current setup and only consider a Sub or Sub Mini after trying the Ultra with Loudness on and the Bass level turned up (not at first - try a flat EQ before turning things up!). Although I have not watched them with my Ultra yet, I know that “Deadpool and Wolverine” has truck-loads of bass in the “grave” scene at the start, and “Saving Private Ryan” has lots of tanks rumbling throughout, if you’re less inclined towards Sci-Fi/Marvel.

I hope this helps.

"Common sense is the collection of prejudices acquired by age eighteen." - Albert Einstein
Prodigy II
November 21, 2024

Just a thought :)
On most sofas, the bottom of the sofa is covered with a piece of fabric and there is actually quite a lot of space up to the springs/cushions themselves.
If you have the courage, you can tilt the sofa up and just check under the fabric in a corner. I'm almost 100% sure you can easily have your Sub lying under the sofa.

I also have my challenges with placing my Era300 there are not many options and not an optimal solution at all. My sofa is in a corner. My Sub is placed at the end of my sofa in another corner and have never had challenges with the sound from my Sub.

I wouldn't buy a Sub mini but a "real" Sub ;) I love my Sub Gen2. and it just gives so much more depth to movies. I'm not getting my Era300 until tomorrow so currently I have "only" my Arc Ultra and Sub. The first movie I tested the Ultra on was actually Deadpool and Wolverine. At first without my Sub and then with my Sub.

There's no doubt that the Ultra delivers a lot of bass and it performs really, really well, but once you connect a Sub you can easily hear and feel that it was missing.

 

Sorry for the long text :)
I can take a few pictures later, some before and after of my Era300 :)

Stanley_4
Grand Maestro
November 21, 2024

I'd say behind the couch too, not in the cabinet or it and any contents are going to rattle.

turbalfAuthor
Trending Lyricist I
November 21, 2024

​@Peter_254 

Thanks for the idea, I checked and no room to make under my couch, I think that the sub will go behind when the time to make myself a treat :)

turbalfAuthor
Trending Lyricist I
December 2, 2024

Hi there,

I finally decided to close the space behind my couch, mostly for aesthetics (I’ll do it this we), so I moved my sub 4 next to the TV, in the left corner :
 

I don’t have many options so not really the luxury to choose the placement :
 

My only options would be sub facing me like it is now or turned 90 degrees, or move it closer to the wall, but it might be too enclosed betwen the featured wall and the TV bench.

Of course I ran truplay again :)

The next evolution would be a smaller TV bench so I could add a second sub in the right.

See you guys !

AjTrek1
December 3, 2024

Hi there,

I finally decided to close the space behind my couch, mostly for aesthetics (I’ll do it this we), so I moved my sub 4 next to the TV, in the left corner :
 

I don’t have many options so not really the luxury to choose the placement :
 

My only options would be sub facing me like it is now or turned 90 degrees, or move it closer to the wall, but it might be too enclosed betwen the featured wall and the TV bench.

Of course I ran truplay again :)

The next evolution would be a smaller TV bench so I could add a second sub in the right.

See you guys !

Regarding the next evolution as you put it. I don’t think a sub on the right would look terribly bad even with the slight protrusion. Unless you are concerned that your daughters and/or guests would compound a possible safety hazard.

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Stanley_4
Grand Maestro
December 3, 2024

I’d try sitting at 45 degrees, one edge in the corner and the other facing the center of the room.

Mine was happier there than sitting against either side wall or sitting out from the corner, going from side to side.

turbalfAuthor
Trending Lyricist I
December 7, 2024

Hi there, a lot of work happened here !
I decided to close the gap between my couch and my rear wall, with ikea modules and a wood tablet.

I put one big tablet on the side to play the role of a wall for my second era 300.

And to make it useful, I put a second one to build a book shell.

Now I have surround effects on both sides !
I could do the same in the front to close space for the arc, but it would be ugly and I think that with surround, the arc may no fire so much side effects than without.

Pretty happy with the result, may not perfect for sound but still a good compromise.
See you guys !

 

Corry P
Sonos Staff
December 16, 2024

Hi ​@turbalf 

As my friend would say, “that looks minted!”

I hope you have dimmers on all those lights though!

"Common sense is the collection of prejudices acquired by age eighteen." - Albert Einstein
turbalfAuthor
Trending Lyricist I
December 16, 2024

Hi ​@turbalf 

As my friend would say, “that looks minted!”

I hope you have dimmers on all those lights though!

Thanks !

Yes I can dim all lights, program zones etc… hue magic !