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AjTrek1
December 10, 2020

Arc Placement

  • December 10, 2020
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Update 11/28/24. The information in this post also applies to the Arc Ultra.

 Updated 9/14/23 to include Era 300’s as surrounds (which have upward firing drivers) that replaced Sonos One’s. All other information and guides are not affected by the change in surrounds.

Quite often questions arise as to the proper placement of the Sonos Arc (and/or what type of room design).

All Dolby Atmos speakers (as does the Arc) rely upon an optimum ceiling height to allow the upward firing speakers to reflect and bounce sound to the listening area. In traditional Dolby Atmos setups where all speakers are separate even the rears have an upward firing driver.

Soundbars such as the Sonos Arc require (as much as possible) a symmetry of placement distance to the side walls as well. That allows for side firing speakers (that lend support to the upward firing speakers) to project rearward sound reflections to simulate surround when no actual rear speakers are used. Adding Sonos rears relieves the Arc of some of the surround sound reflection duties.

My Arc resides in a room 12.5ft (width) x 19.5ft (length) x 8ft (height). All wall surfaces are smooth with a minimalist textured ceiling.  The complete setup consists of Arc / Sub x 2 / Sonos Era 300 x 2.

Questions have also risen about the distance of the Arc from the floor. Any front speaker used in a Home Theater environment should be at ear level to the listener when seated. My Arc is approximately 39 inches above floor and 3ft from front wall. Distance to seating/listener is 10ft.

It is expected that the room dimensions of width, length and height will vary by individual dwelling. The previous statement regarding the height of a front speaker above the floor should without a doubt negate the idea of mounting  any soundbar (especially the Arc) above a TV (which ironically is a question often asked).

However, I’m just another community member...so what the heck do I know...right? Therefore, I offer the excerpts below taken from the Dolby Atmos Installation Guidelines at this link. Although the guide focuses on multi-speaker installation versus a soundbar the general parameters are in parallel. 

 

Room treatment considerations for use of Dolby Atmos enabled speakers For optimal performance, the ceiling should be flat (not angled or vaulted), with a height between 7.5 and 14 feet (2.3 to 4.3 meters), and made of an acoustically reflective material (drywall, plaster, hardwood, or another rigid, non---sound-absorbing material).

The ideal ceiling height is between 7.5 and 12 feet (2.3 to 3.66 meters)

The speakers located in the front of the room shall be used as a reference point.

All listener speakers should be at the same height, typically 3.9 feet (1.2 meters), which is ear level for the average seated listener (as defined in ITU-R BS.1116-1).

 If possible, the height of the rear speakers should be the same as the height of the front speakers. If the room design makes this impractical or impossible, the rear speakers may be positioned higher than the front speakers.

However, we suggest that the height of the rear speakers not be more than 1.25 times the height of the front speakers.

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22 replies

Lyricist III
January 14, 2021

Thanks. I will check it out. Makes me think that I could put it on a piece of glass the size of my console which I could lift with some aluminum or stainless blanks to allow the Arc to slide under the glass.

 

You really think mounting the Arc above is a non starter?

AjTrek1
AjTrek1Author
January 15, 2021

Hi @licro 

Just my two cents…

IMO mounting the Arc above a TV is a non-starter for the reasons stated in the main article of this thread. Placing the Arc under a shelf is definitely a no no. You’d negate the top firing speakers.

Many have used an IKEA Lack Shelf to elevate their TV to allow placement of Sonos sound bars. Doing  so prevents obstructing the lower portion of  the TV screen or your case the glass frame. It’s worth a look.

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Avid Contributor I
January 23, 2021

Hi all,

I have currently placed my Arc on a low piece of solid furniture under the OLED TV:

 

Planning now to hide the HDMI cable in the wall (it’s a gypsum wall). Then I have two options:

  1. Leave the Arc where it is on the furniture
  2. Hang the Arc on the wall via the appropriate support mid way between the furniture and the bottom edge of the TV

 

What would be the best option from a sound perspective? I understand the Arc can recognise when placed hanging on the support and adapt itself accordingly. But what is really the best solution sound-wise? Laying on a shelf or hanging on the wall?

From an aesthetic viewpoint both options are nice… maybe slightly better the one on the wall IMHO.

 

Thanks,

C.

 

 

 

AjTrek1
AjTrek1Author
January 23, 2021

Hi @cfugge 

Sonos does not make a differentiation on either wall or surface mounting. They have already taken the acoustics into consideration as you indicated. Therefore it becomes a personal choice. Maybe someone who has tried both may leave a comment.

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Lead Maestro
January 23, 2021

@cfugge How high are your ceilings and how close are you seated from the TV?

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Avid Contributor I
January 23, 2021

@cfugge How high are your ceilings and how close are you seated from the TV?

Ceiling is cm 260 high and I am seating at 310/320 cm distance from the Arc. The furniture is cm 42 high and in case of hanging support the arc would be at an height of about 55 cm from the ground.

Lead Maestro
January 23, 2021

If you want a better height effect from the two upward firing speakers when watching Dolby Atmos content, the Arc mounted on the wall would get it a little closer to the ceiling, but I’m not sure 13 cm would be that noticeable of a difference. The benefit of keeping the Arc on your media console would give you the option to move the Arc closer to the front edge of the console which would also improve the audio and height effect from your seating location. The further away you are seated from the Arc, the less noticeable the height effect will be. I keep my Arc near the back of the console with daily TV watching, but when I watch a movie (especially a Dolby Atmos movie), I move it to the front edge.

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Avid Contributor I
January 23, 2021

If you want a better height effect from the two upward firing speakers when watching Dolby Atmos content, the Arc mounted on the wall would get it a little closer to the ceiling, but I’m not sure 13 cm would be that noticeable of a difference. The benefit of keeping the Arc on your media console would give you the option to move the Arc closer to the front edge of the console which would also improve the audio and height effect from your seating location. The further away you are seated from the Arc, the less noticeable the height effect will be. I keep my Arc near the back of the console with daily TV watching, but when I watch a movie (especially a Dolby Atmos movie), I move it to the front edge.

Thanks, this is a nice tip. However don’t you have to rerun your trueplay optimization when moving the bar?

Lead Maestro
January 23, 2021

I don’t redo Trueplay since I am only moving the Arc about 20-25 cm closer to my seating position.

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ratty
January 23, 2021

I don’t redo Trueplay since I am only moving the Arc about 20-25 cm closer to my seating position.

If moving the Arc is worthwhile to get a better sound then you’re changing the room effects, including the wall reinforcement. The previous Trueplay tuning is therefore invalid.