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JackWright
Chromatic Producer II
Jun 6, 2018 11:32 PM UTC

What possible change I think will make the new "Beam" a game changer in home theatre

The Beam (new soundbar announced today) is like the little brother to the Playbar, with HDMI ARC instead and less drivers. But in my opinion, It can be more than just a basic bedroom soundbar. I think it could well be the core of what could be an extremely amazing, great sounding, modular and versatile true smart home theatre system.

Why?

The ability to add two more Sonos Play speakers as front channel LR and make the Beam a centre channel speaker.

Need I say more? How amazing would that be? It can be a true 5.1 or 3.1 setup with HDMI support for Dolby DTS and more.

Sonos are targeting the mid-range smart speakers on the market. And I think they've done a great job. But what really earns Sonos the money and is a key selling point for many is being able to expand the Sonos ecosystem in a modular fashion.

What most people do with their typical Samsung or other branded soundbar is upgrade it - replace the entire thing. With Sonos, there could be no need to upgrade the Beam. You can add two more Play 1's or One's to the left and right side to upgrade, improve the sound quality, create fuller and richer stereo, and make a true 3.1 setup with the addition of two more speakers on top! Do you want a Sonos soundbar for £400 and not break the bank? Get the Beam. Do you already own the Beam and want something more? Add two more speakers and make the beam a centre channel speaker. Do you want a true 5.1 or (even 7.1?) surround sound system? Then add more speakers.

People can build their Sonos system starting with the basic "we rival smart speaker competitors" to "we want to give you the best, simplest, great sounding home theatre system" WITHOUT replacing the soundbar!


The idea fits into Sonos's current strategies so well, and I really hope they think about being able to add more AIO speakers instead of just the three limiting you to basic "5.1" surround sound. The potential for this thing is endless!

Anyway, am I missing something bad about this? What is there that could prevent Sonos from considering this as a future update?
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Enthusiast II
Jun 7, 2018 12:48 AM UTC
The only unknown with the Beam still is it's HDMI port, I can't find anything in the FAQ to tell me if it's HDMI 2.0c or HDMI 2.1, does anyone know?

If it is 2.1, that leave Sonos with room to upgrade the Beam via software updates that could add new codecs later on (not that Atmos will ever be supported)

Aww I'm clutching at straws here, sonos doesn't give a shit about us home theatre users
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JackWright
Chromatic Producer II
Jun 7, 2018 12:57 AM UTC
The only unknown with the Beam still is it's HDMI port, I can't find anything in the FAQ to tell me if it's HDMI 2.0c or HDMI 2.1, does anyone know?

If it is 2.1, that leave Sonos with room to upgrade the Beam via software updates that could add new codecs later on (not that Atmos will ever be supported)

Aww I'm clutching at straws here, sonos doesn't give a shit about us home theatre users


I must admit, home theatre isn't their strong point. But let's look to the bright side - if it is 2.1, then they probably do give a shit about home threatre! There's a chance.
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Sonos is latin for sound. My mind was blown when I found that out.
DarqMan
Enthusiast I
Jun 7, 2018 5:04 AM UTC
Sorry JackWright but I don't agree with you. After years of complaints from customers on this very community forum, Sonos continues to ignore requests from their most loyal fans and again choose to not include support for DTS codec in this so called home theater product. This is a typical example of big brother telling you that you don't know what you want, so "they will tell you what you want!". I haven't added to my Sonos system in years and until they decide to listen I won't spend another cent on their products.
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melvimbe
Jun 7, 2018 9:43 AM UTC
Sorry JackWright but I don't agree with you. After years of complaints from customers on this very community forum, Sonos continues to ignore requests from their most loyal fans and again choose to not include support for DTS codec in this so called home theater product. This is a typical example of big brother telling you that you don't know what you want, so "they will tell you what you want!". I haven't added to my Sonos system in years and until they decide to listen I won't spend another cent on their products.

By 'most loyal fans' , do you mean the folks who are constantly bashing Sonos and threatening to go buy competitor products if their demands aren't met? That's sort of a weird definition of loyal fan.

The Beam isn't a home theater product per se. Yes, it works with your tv, but it's designed for small to medium rooms, not your home theater.
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Danny
Lyricist III
Jun 7, 2018 10:16 AM UTC
Sorry JackWright but I don't agree with you. After years of complaints from customers on this very community forum, Sonos continues to ignore requests from their most loyal fans and again choose to not include support for DTS codec in this so called home theater product. This is a typical example of big brother telling you that you don't know what you want, so "they will tell you what you want!". I haven't added to my Sonos system in years and until they decide to listen I won't spend another cent on their products.

By 'most loyal fans' , do you mean the folks who are constantly bashing Sonos and threatening to go buy competitor products if their demands aren't met? That's sort of a weird definition of loyal fan.

The Beam isn't a home theater product per se. Yes, it works with your tv, but it's designed for small to medium rooms, not your home theater.


People like me who have 1000s of dollars worth of Sonos equipment but are thinking about selling them all because of the home cinema experience.

Every day someone posts here on this forum who has just discovered that his 1500$ home cinema setup can't play common home cinema audio codecs.

You have so much hassle owning a Sonos Home Cinema set with fiddling with transcoding devices, optical switches, etc, all because Sonos knows best and refuses to support anything but 20 year old dolby digital. So you can have compressed 5.1 audio from the nineties.
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Headliner I
Jun 7, 2018 3:54 PM UTC
Did Sonos say something about possibility to add front speakers?

And HDMI protocol version is important, sad website info are not saying anything about it...
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Avid Contributor III
Jun 7, 2018 3:59 PM UTC
Sorry JackWright but I don't agree with you. After years of complaints from customers on this very community forum, Sonos continues to ignore requests from their most loyal fans and again choose to not include support for DTS codec in this so called home theater product. This is a typical example of big brother telling you that you don't know what you want, so "they will tell you what you want!". I haven't added to my Sonos system in years and until they decide to listen I won't spend another cent on their products.

By 'most loyal fans' , do you mean the folks who are constantly bashing Sonos and threatening to go buy competitor products if their demands aren't met? That's sort of a weird definition of loyal fan.

The Beam isn't a home theater product per se. Yes, it works with your tv, but it's designed for small to medium rooms, not your home theater.


I don’t agree... Sonos Beam was announced like “a new speaker, integrated with Sonos Multiroom environment, and it is for home theatre”.

So, 2 options.

Or they will add further features via software update, or they completely miss the point.

If not, I cannot understand the HDMI utility, since they stated only “in order to allow you to turn on off the system with TV remote”... ok, thanks Sonos, I’m actually able to do that with optical with my playbar and LG TV remote
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Paulw123
Virtuoso
Jun 7, 2018 4:38 PM UTC
It gets rid of the problem with tvs that do not pass DD5.1 out over optical....
I was hoping , like many others, that HDMI would bring new codecs.
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Avid Contributor III
Jun 7, 2018 4:53 PM UTC
It gets rid of the problem with tvs that do not pass DD5.1 out over optical....
I was hoping , like many others, that HDMI would bring new codecs.


Again... not correct... if the TV does not pass the 5.1 trough optical, HDMI audio extractor are available for 15$... and guess what? Sonos include its own HDMI extractor in Sonos Beam package... So... HDMI utility is nor for the TV remote, neither for the 5.1 pass trough... IF they don’t add new codec, it’s completely useless... IMO
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Living Room Playbar + Sub + 2xPlay:1 + Boost / bedroom Play:1
Chris
Lead Maestro
Jun 7, 2018 5:09 PM UTC
Won't ARC HDMI step down Dolby Atmos to DD 5.1 for the Beam … which is all you actually need. Yes No DTS.

This is a playbar jr. with HDMI not a playbar 2. Be disappointed all you want but the market for this speaker is more entry level then you hoped for. Is what it is.

Beam isn't trying to be a "game changer" its trying to be a good value.
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