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September 24, 2017
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Using my Sonos (and other) equipment to create a surround sound system

  • September 24, 2017
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I have had a Sonos system for years but used it strictly for music. I have not tried to incorporate my TV to create a surround sound system but thought perhaps I should give it a try. Here is the equipment I have:

2 - Play 5’s
1 - Play 1
2 - CONNECT:AMPS
1 - 4th gen Apple TV
1 - Sony Sound bar with sub
4 - in ceiling speakers (not currently in use)

I currently have the sound bar as the primary output for the TV. I am not sure how (or if) a surround system can be created out of all of this. And finally, if it can be done, then does that preclude the Sonos items being used from playing music?

I am thinking that one way to do it would be to just use the 2 CONNECT:AMPS to drive the surround output of the 4 in ceiling speakers and continue to utilize the sound bar with its sub.

Anyone have some ideas for me?
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    D33p5t3r
    Collaborator II
    September 24, 2017
    Get rid of the Sony Soundbar, and replace with a Playbar/Playbase. Make sure it's directly connected to your router, and go through the steps to hook up one of your Connect Amps as rear surround sound speakers. If you can't do that, then get a Playbar/Playbase, get an extra Play 1 and set those up as wireless surround sound speakers.

    There's no way to make the Sony Soundbar and Connect:Amp play nice with each other for surround sound.
    Sony 55XE9305 4K TV | Sonos Beam | Sonos Amp | Apple TV (2nd Gen) | Monitor Audio CT-165 Ceiling Speakers
    September 24, 2017
    To use a Connect:Amp to drive rear surrounds it is necessary to have a wired connection between the Playbar/base and C:A, either directly or through a router/switch. And you must run in boost mode. Play:1s may prove much easier practically.
    donl1150Author
    Avid Contributor I
    September 25, 2017
    Confused....my router is a ways away. No way to ethernet either Playbase or CONNECT:AMP to it. Can I just ethernet Playbase and CONNECT:AMP together?
    Airgetlam
    September 25, 2017
    Yes, as John B said. " a wired connection between the Playbar/base and C:A, either directly...."
    Bruce
    D33p5t3r
    Collaborator II
    September 25, 2017
    I mentioned all of this in my original post. The Playbar/Playbase needs a direct connection to the router, along with the Connect:Amp (or a direct connection to each other). In your case if it's not possible, get a Playbar, and an extra Play 1 and use those as your wireless surrounds.
    Sony 55XE9305 4K TV | Sonos Beam | Sonos Amp | Apple TV (2nd Gen) | Monitor Audio CT-165 Ceiling Speakers
    September 25, 2017
    I cannot see that that was clear in your original reply, which is why I commented.
    RO53BEN
    Enthusiast II
    September 25, 2017
    I wouldn't add Sonos into the mix here. If you're happy with your music system, keep it that way. If you are happy with your TV sound, don't change.

    If you want a surround sound system for TV, Sonos is far from the best option here. Look at a modern TV sound system which meets your needs. It will likely offer more functions and be more cost effective than a Sonos PLAYBAR/Playbase.
    I am no longer active on these forums, DM me if you have a question, I'd be happy to help.
    donl1150Author
    Avid Contributor I
    September 25, 2017
    RO53BEN, while that may be true, I already have the other SONOS components for the rear speakers. Adding the PLAYBASE seems like the logical solution if my TV is compatible. I am still trying to determine that.
    Prodigy I
    September 25, 2017
    RO53BEN, while that may be true, I already have the other SONOS components for the rear speakers. Adding the PLAYBASE seems like the logical solution if my TV is compatible. I am still trying to determine that.
    I want to clarify one point. If you were using the Playbase to drive the Sonos Play1s (and/or a Sonos SUB) alone, that does not require a wired connection.

    As far as playing music, the use of Playbase (and paired devices) doesn't preclude it from being used for the same music services you enjoy today. However, you may find it a little cumbersome if you wanted to say only use the Play 1s, as it would require removing them from the surround setup.
    RO53BEN
    Enthusiast II
    September 25, 2017
    RO53BEN, while that may be true, I already have the other SONOS components for the rear speakers. Adding the PLAYBASE seems like the logical solution if my TV is compatible. I am still trying to determine that.

    You can't use your existing Sonos components without buying an expensive PLAYBAR/PLAYBASE device.

    Should you choose to do that, you can:

    1) Waste a £1000 investment in Play 5 speakers (assuming they are gen 2) and use them as surround speakers. They can't then easily be used for music, unless used at the same time as your soundbar device - which doesn't work very well. It's your Play 5 speakers are Gen 1 they can't be used anyway.

    2) Buy an additional PLAY:1 to use with the existing one as a surround speaker set-up. This will also cost £1000 and will only give you surround sound options from the 1990s.

    3) Combine an existing Connect:Amp with existing speakers and combine with an £800 Sonos Soundbar. You'll need to wire the Connect:Amp device to your network and you'll only get surround sound options from the 1990s.

    All three options above will lose the existing Sony Subwoofer, so you'll miss the rich bass you had previously. Your only option would be to buy a Sonos branded SUB, which can't be connected to anything else, at an additional cost of £700.

    So you're looking at a £1500-1700 minimum to get a surround option from your existing components. You can buy a better surround sound AV solution for far less money than this and if you spent this much on AV separates, you'd rival the local cinema.
    I am no longer active on these forums, DM me if you have a question, I'd be happy to help.