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Trending Lyricist I
July 3, 2021

Upfiring speakers after adding surrounds

Hi all,

I have a Sonos ARC, Sub(GEN 3), and One SLs setup for my living. When I added my One SLs as surrounds this week, I noticed that the two upfiring drivers from the ARC were moved to the One SLs when testing with Dolby Atmos 5.1.2. file (so no sounds from upfiring speakers). Besides, I had also tested with some Atmos movies from Netflix and Disney+ and confirmed the same. Moreover, I can't hear any difference by adjusting the height level while playing the Dolby Atmos test file. 

 

If you have a similar setup as mine, do you experience the same or it is just me?

 

P.S. My Samsung TV has no Dolby Atmos support (ARC HDMI port only) but I am able to stream Dolby Atmos from Shield TV cuz SONOS apps shows (DD+) Dolby Atmos on About My System.

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16 replies

Lead Maestro
July 3, 2021

When you play the test tones file, does the Sonos app say you are getting Dolby Atmos audio?

"Receive with simplicity everything that happens to you." - Rashi
po99132Author
Trending Lyricist I
July 3, 2021

When you play the test tones file, does the Sonos app say you are getting Dolby Atmos audio?

Yes, I can see one the apps screen that shows TV Dolby Atmos and (DD+) Dolby Atmos on About My System in the apps.

Some people from reddit also reported the same issues before.

https://www.reddit.com/r/sonos/comments/hc21uu/dolby_atmos_512_test_video_file_download_link/

Lead Maestro
July 3, 2021

Do you hear audio coming from the upward firing speakers when streaming Dolby Atmos content? How far are you seated from the Arc? How high are your ceilings? Are they flat? How far is the Arc from your ceiling?

"Receive with simplicity everything that happens to you." - Rashi
po99132Author
Trending Lyricist I
July 3, 2021

Do you hear audio coming from the upward firing speakers when streaming Dolby Atmos content? No while playing the test file.

How far are you seated from the Arc? around 12 feet

How high are your ceilings? 10 feet

Are they flat? Yes

How far is the Arc from your ceiling? 8 feet

Lead Maestro
July 3, 2021

Do you hear audio coming from the upward firing speakers when streaming Atmos content from Netflix and Disney+? If so, I would ignore the test tones file.

12 feet is too far to hear the height channels. Find a scene in a movie with clear height effects and move within 5-7 feet of the Arc and adjust the height audio level from 0 to +10 and see if you can hear a difference.

"Receive with simplicity everything that happens to you." - Rashi
Ken_Griffiths
July 3, 2021

P.S. My Samsung TV has no Dolby Atmos support (ARC HDMI port only) but I am able to stream Dolby Atmos from Shield TV cuz SONOS apps shows (DD+) Dolby Atmos on About My System.

I suspect what you mention above, is something to do with this… and that the TV, which itself doesn’t handle height Audio channels is perhaps (causing) down-mixing of the height channels to the surrounds as it passes from the Shield and through the TV ports. One way around this is to bypass the TV altogether by using an HDFury Arcana audio extractor/splitter as widely mentioned in other threads on the forum. See this link:

https://www.hdfury.uk/product/hdfury-arcana/

po99132Author
Trending Lyricist I
July 3, 2021

I set height adjust to 10+ and I tested the upward speakers Avenger Endgame where Captain America casts lighting down on Thano (2:13:35), I can't hear upward speakers from the ARC and I can tell it was transferred to the SLs. Interestingly, when I turned off surrounds on the apps, I can hear upward speakers from the ARC on the same video. 

So it is something to do with the surrounds I guess, unless I am not really getting the "Ture” DD+ Dolby Atmos from my Shield TV through my Samsun TV 2017 model. 

 

I will also try to move my couch closer to the TV and redo the Trueplay calibration.

po99132Author
Trending Lyricist I
July 3, 2021

P.S. My Samsung TV has no Dolby Atmos support (ARC HDMI port only) but I am able to stream Dolby Atmos from Shield TV cuz SONOS apps shows (DD+) Dolby Atmos on About My System.

I suspect what you mention above, is something to do with this… and that the TV, which itself doesn’t handle height Audio channels is perhaps (causing) down-mixing of the height channels to the surrounds as it passes from the Shield and through the TV ports. One way around this is to bypass the TV altogether by using an HDFury Arcana audio extractor/splitter as widely mentioned in other threads on the forum. See this link:

https://www.hdfury.uk/product/hdfury-arcana/

Yes I was suspecting the same thing and I was thinking about ordering one. 

Lead Maestro
July 3, 2021

Very strange. If the Sonos app is showing “Dolby Atmos (DD+)” then the Arc is receiving Atmos audio and it should be able to send each audio channel to the proper speaker/driver.

I would try removing the surrounds from the Arc in the Sonos app and unplugging the One SLs from power for a couple of minutes and re-adding them as surrounds. Then test again.

Another good height channel scene to test is from The Wandering Earth on Netflix. At about the 1:23:25 mark, there are clear electric spark sound effects playing out of the upward firing speakers for the next 30-40 seconds. Just be sure you are listening to the Dolby Atmos Chinese track.

"Receive with simplicity everything that happens to you." - Rashi
po99132Author
Trending Lyricist I
July 3, 2021

Very strange. If the Sonos app is showing “Dolby Atmos (DD+)” then the Arc is receiving Atmos audio and it should be able to send each audio channel to the proper speaker/driver.

I would try removing the surrounds from the Arc in the Sonos app and unplugging the One SLs from power for a couple of minutes and re-adding them as surrounds. Then test again.

Another good height channel scene to test is from The Wandering Earth on Netflix. At about the 1:23:25 mark, there are clear electric spark sound effects playing out of the upward firing speakers for the next 30-40 seconds. Just be sure you are listening to the Dolby Atmos Chinese track.

I have re-added the SLs in the apps and still the same while testing Avenger Endgame. 

However, when I tested The Wandering Earth scene, I can clearly hear the electric spark sound effected above my head. I am so confused now LOL