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TV sound with 2 One's and no playbar

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My mother in law is having a mirror TV fitted and needs external speakers but doesn’t want to see a soundbar underneath the TV or have speaker cables routed around her room.

She is more concerned about how it looks rather than how it sounds and isn't after surround sound.

What is the best way to use a L & R speaker connected to the TV without a soundbar?

I guess I could use the ARC connection from the TV connected to a Connect Amp and send that to the 2 speakers but it seems like expensive overkill to use the amp for that.

I’ve considered buying a beam to control the L & R speakers and hiding/muting it but am not sure how it would sound.

I’ve been looking at other setups Like the Audio Pro bookshelf speakers but they need to be connected with a wire.

Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

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AirgetlamAnswer

Sorry, got tied up for work.

All analog inputs on a Sonos device are subject to that 75ms minimum delay. The Port, the Amp, or the Five makes no difference.

The digital input on an Amp, a Beam, or an Arc, is subject to a much lower delay (essentially undetectable)….for that room only. As soon as you ‘group’ the signal from that digital input with any other Sonos room, you’ll have that delay.

Not sure why I’d ever disagree with John B, he’s been around here longer than I, and has a better grasp of most things.

If you’re connecting to a TV of any type, my recommendation is you stick with a Sonos digital input, on the Amp (which drives your own speakers), or either of the sound bars, the Beam or the Arc. And use the digital connection from HDMI ARC or eARC. Sonos also can sell you an optical (TOSLink) to HDMI ARC connector if your TV does not have an HDMI ARC port, but does have an optical port. You’re restricted to Dolby Digital and nothing higher across optical, so Atmos would be out if you use that option.

Essentially, to connect to a TV, you should use a device Sonos has designed for that use. You could use the other options, but there would be a high chance someone would be unhappy.

Bruce

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Airgetlam

HDMI ARC is a digital connection, and not subject to the same delay required for an analog connection on the Port.

All Sonos analog connections are subject to a minimum of around 75 ms, not only to digitize the signal, which is fairly fast, but to buffer the signal, in order to be synchronized across the many potential Sonos rooms. In fact, the digital connection on a Sonos device incurs a similar delay, once you go outside of the ‘room’ that contains that digital input, for the same synchronization across ‘rooms’ reason. But if you’re sticking with the ‘room’ that contains that digital input, you’ll have minimal delay for that room.

Bruce

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HDMI ARC is a digital connection, and not subject to the same delay required for an analog connection on the Port.

All Sonos analog connections are subject to a minimum of around 75 ms, not only to digitize the signal, which is fairly fast, but to buffer the signal, in order to be synchronized across the many potential Sonos rooms. In fact, the digital connection on a Sonos device incurs a similar delay, once you go outside of the ‘room’ that contains that digital input, for the same synchronization across ‘rooms’ reason. But if you’re sticking with the ‘room’ that contains that digital input, you’ll have minimal delay for that room.

Thanks Bruce,

So if I understand correctly you would suggest the AMP would be better than the PORT for what I need?

Many Thanks

Simon

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John B

HDMI ARC is a digital connection, and not subject to the same delay required for an analog connection on the Port.

All Sonos analog connections are subject to a minimum of around 75 ms, not only to digitize the signal, which is fairly fast, but to buffer the signal, in order to be synchronized across the many potential Sonos rooms. In fact, the digital connection on a Sonos device incurs a similar delay, once you go outside of the ‘room’ that contains that digital input, for the same synchronization across ‘rooms’ reason. But if you’re sticking with the ‘room’ that contains that digital input, you’ll have minimal delay for that room.

Thanks Bruce,

So if I understand correctly you would suggest the AMP would be better than the PORT for what I need?

Many Thanks

Simon

I suspect you have not understood correctly, but I will let @Airgetlam confirm or correct.

J

John B

OK I'll give my view and Bruce can agree or disagree. There would be no difference in lag between the Port and the Amp by the time the sound comes out of the Ones.

With the Port the analog line in would lag but the Ones would sync with the Port.

With HDMI into the Amp there would be negligible lag on the Amp but the Ones would lag the Amp.

AirgetlamAnswer

Sorry, got tied up for work.

All analog inputs on a Sonos device are subject to that 75ms minimum delay. The Port, the Amp, or the Five makes no difference.

The digital input on an Amp, a Beam, or an Arc, is subject to a much lower delay (essentially undetectable)….for that room only. As soon as you ‘group’ the signal from that digital input with any other Sonos room, you’ll have that delay.

Not sure why I’d ever disagree with John B, he’s been around here longer than I, and has a better grasp of most things.

If you’re connecting to a TV of any type, my recommendation is you stick with a Sonos digital input, on the Amp (which drives your own speakers), or either of the sound bars, the Beam or the Arc. And use the digital connection from HDMI ARC or eARC. Sonos also can sell you an optical (TOSLink) to HDMI ARC connector if your TV does not have an HDMI ARC port, but does have an optical port. You’re restricted to Dolby Digital and nothing higher across optical, so Atmos would be out if you use that option.

Essentially, to connect to a TV, you should use a device Sonos has designed for that use. You could use the other options, but there would be a high chance someone would be unhappy.

Bruce

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