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Trending Lyricist I
July 9, 2013

TV remote for grouped devices issue

  • July 9, 2013
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When I group a Connect AMP and Playbar (which is connected to a TV), I can't control the volume using the TV's remote as a group, it only adjusts the volume of the play bar. This means I have to reset the balance of the speakers within the group everytime someone adjusts the volume using the TV remote. This is a real pain. Is there a way the group volume can be controlled by the TV remote?
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Lyricist III
March 9, 2015
Something very weird happened.  By some sort of glitch (I guess), I was able to control ALL GROUPS via my TV remote.  I'm not sure what happened.  I took it for granted, and after unplugging/replugging my sonos speakers to re-arrange them in my room, it is no longer working.  So, I know for a fact that SONOS can get this to work, because I was able to (for a couple days) control my entire GROUP (playbar/sub/ 4 play:1's) with the TV remote.  Now its not working.  SONOS, come on help us out here!


How do you like the wider sound stage that your second pair of play 1 gave you? After I eliminated the echo effect by adjusting the play bars lip sync Ijust love it!
Lyricist II
March 9, 2015
Something very weird happened.  By some sort of glitch (I guess), I was able to control ALL GROUPS via my TV remote.  I'm not sure what happened.  I took it for granted, and after unplugging/replugging my sonos speakers to re-arrange them in my room, it is no longer working.  So, I know for a fact that SONOS can get this to work, because I was able to (for a couple days) control my entire GROUP (playbar/sub/ 4 play:1's) with the TV remote.  Now its not working.  SONOS, come on help us out here!


The wider sound stage is a must!  Playbar is good by itself, but for a wider room it is essential to compliment it with a second pair for Play:1s.   After adjusting for the lip sync delay (which you also pointed out), the sound is totally awesome.  Now if only we could control it with the TV remote.
Lyricist III
March 9, 2015
Something very weird happened.  By some sort of glitch (I guess), I was able to control ALL GROUPS via my TV remote.  I'm not sure what happened.  I took it for granted, and after unplugging/replugging my sonos speakers to re-arrange them in my room, it is no longer working.  So, I know for a fact that SONOS can get this to work, because I was able to (for a couple days) control my entire GROUP (playbar/sub/ 4 play:1's) with the TV remote.  Now its not working.  SONOS, come on help us out here!


I hear you. It sucks when the phone rings or something and you still have the extra play 1's blaring away after you've muted the rest with your tv remote. I'm considering adding a pair of play 5's to this configuration to achieve an even fuller sound, but until this volume control problem is rectified I'm going to wait.
Avid Contributor I
March 9, 2015
For me, I am also using the pair of Play3 in the back as full surround speaker, not as part of the 5.1 setup.
I just prefer the wider soundstage, instead of the mostly simulated 5.1 from the DD 2.0 sound (yes, I am using an HDMI split with digital output, totaly not using the fake stero upmix, no worries).

I would just love to have a feature like the music full surround for tv! That small delay is absolutely fine! Sonos could just add that feature with a small hint that there an almost not noticeable delay and VOILA theres the ability to control it via the soundbar. AND EVERYONES FINE AND HAPPY.

PLEASE SONOS. My apartment is filled with Sonos Components, and this is the only feature I am missing for soooo long!
Dave
Headliner II
March 9, 2015
The problem here is grouped is different to bonded, if you have play 1's or 3's for SS with your playbar they are bonded. Adding a stereo pair and grouping them is not the same as bonding and each groups volume can be adjusted independently. The same applies to stereo pairs, when you adjust volume on one the other turns up to match. Maybe a request for bonded groups would be a better title so that way if you had four play 3's you could set two + two as stereo pairs and bond them to have four play 3's.
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Lyricist II
March 9, 2015
Dave, I agree- however Sonos wants to do it logistically, I am on board.  I think there just needs to be an option to either control the group with a tv remote, or be able to BOND an extra pair with the playbar/play1/sub system.
Trending Lyricist I
March 9, 2015
The problem here is grouped is different to bonded, if you have play 1's or 3's for SS with your playbar they are bonded. Adding a stereo pair and grouping them is not the same as bonding and each groups volume can be adjusted independently. The same applies to stereo pairs, when you adjust volume on one the other turns up to match. Maybe a request for bonded groups would be a better title so that way if you had four play 3's you could set two + two as stereo pairs and bond them to have four play 3's.
As far as I'm aware, you can't bond some components together. So as long as you can control a group of components regardless, with the playable TV remote, I don't particularly care how its done. This has been out there for so long now. Why don't Sonos do something about this?
nicka99
Local Superstar
March 10, 2015
For me, I am also using the pair of Play3 in the back as full surround speaker, not as part of the 5.1 setup.
I just prefer the wider soundstage, instead of the mostly simulated 5.1 from the DD 2.0 sound (yes, I am using an HDMI split with digital output, totaly not using the fake stero upmix, no worries).

I would just love to have a feature like the music full surround for tv! That small delay is absolutely fine! Sonos could just add that feature with a small hint that there an almost not noticeable delay and VOILA theres the ability to control it via the soundbar. AND EVERYONES FINE AND HAPPY.

PLEASE SONOS. My apartment is filled with Sonos Components, and this is the only feature I am missing for soooo long!


please add your support here for Full surround when TV is the music source
https://ask.sonos.com/sonos/topics/full-stereo-option-when-watching-tv-audio-please

when Tv is the source (or anything else via the optical input of the playbar), the user should have the choice to switch to full audio from all speakers in the same way they can with music.  Its asked to add an extra button along with Speech Enhancement and Night Mode.
Trending Lyricist I
March 10, 2015
For me, I am also using the pair of Play3 in the back as full surround speaker, not as part of the 5.1 setup.
I just prefer the wider soundstage, instead of the mostly simulated 5.1 from the DD 2.0 sound (yes, I am using an HDMI split with digital output, totaly not using the fake stero upmix, no worries).

I would just love to have a feature like the music full surround for tv! That small delay is absolutely fine! Sonos could just add that feature with a small hint that there an almost not noticeable delay and VOILA theres the ability to control it via the soundbar. AND EVERYONES FINE AND HAPPY.

PLEASE SONOS. My apartment is filled with Sonos Components, and this is the only feature I am missing for soooo long!


With all due respect NickA, what you are asking for is different to this. Your idea should be able to solicit its own support without you having to link to other requests.
nicka99
Local Superstar
March 10, 2015
For me, I am also using the pair of Play3 in the back as full surround speaker, not as part of the 5.1 setup.
I just prefer the wider soundstage, instead of the mostly simulated 5.1 from the DD 2.0 sound (yes, I am using an HDMI split with digital output, totaly not using the fake stero upmix, no worries).

I would just love to have a feature like the music full surround for tv! That small delay is absolutely fine! Sonos could just add that feature with a small hint that there an almost not noticeable delay and VOILA theres the ability to control it via the soundbar. AND EVERYONES FINE AND HAPPY.

PLEASE SONOS. My apartment is filled with Sonos Components, and this is the only feature I am missing for soooo long!


With all due respect User128884, this poster, agoraphobia, has said they he/she is using his/her Play 3s grouped but unbonded from his Playbar because there is no option to output TV audio to all speakers in bonded 5.1 configuration simultaneously (aka 'Full Surround').  I have pointed them to an 'Idea' which will do exactly what he/she is asking.  Yes, I am aware it is not what is being asked in 'your' Idea but I am trying to be helpful to the user and direct them to a related playbar idea elsewhere on this forum which would solve the problem they have identified.

If I see someone post in a different Playbar topic something about using the TV remote to control the volume of all grouped speakers, should I direct them to vote on your idea ??  Ill think twice now.

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