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DaveHamilton
Trending Lyricist I
May 7, 2017
Question

Toggle Night Sound and Speech Enhancement with Harmony Remote?

Have a new PLAYBASE running alongside a setup with a Harmony One (complete with Hub). Added the PLAYBASE to the Harmony config, but there are no options for the new, TV-specific features. Anyone have any luck adding these so they can be controlled via the Harmony (and I don't need to power-up my iPhone, etc).
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UKMedia
November 1, 2017
Okay, so some more progress. Have a look at this article and see if your additional commands can be added:

https://support.myharmony.com/en-us/customizing-buttons-on-your-remotes-screen

I can add new commands for my PlayBar, I'm not sure if these are the same as a PlayBase
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VTENGR
Lyricist III
November 1, 2017
Okay, so some more progress. Have a look at this article and see if your additional commands can be added:

https://support.myharmony.com/en-us/customizing-buttons-on-your-remotes-screen

I can add new commands for my PlayBar, I'm not sure if these are the same as a PlayBase


If Harmony/Sonos has those commands in the command library for the Harmony remote, can certainly do that. The Problem is, the command library for the PlayBar consist of 3 buttons, Volume up, Volume Down and Mute. Basically you would be adding custom buttons for buttons that already exist via the remote. Harmony needs to add "Night Mode" and "Audio Enhance" to their command database.

I guess Logitech needs to get involved, but I seem to recall Logitech saying it was a SONOS thing, not their thing.
UKMedia
November 1, 2017
I have a lot more commands for my Playbar but not the ones you mention (I don't see them in the Sonos app either though).

I do get a much richer set of commands if I follow these instruction and select my Sonos Connect as the device.

https://support.myharmony.com/en-us/harmony-experience-with-sonos
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Lyricist I
November 10, 2017
I have a Harmony Ultimate and do not have night mode or audio enhanced commands. I just purchased the play bar. I used the night mode frequently with my old receiver. I am thinking of returning the sonos system since I would not want to run around and find my phone every time I watch TV. Disappointing since I like the sound otherwise.
November 26, 2017
Just contact Harmony support. They are very helpful and I’m sure they add the missing commands.
Contributor I
January 23, 2018
Any progress on this? I have Harmony Elite with Playbar.
Lyricist II
June 9, 2019
Same here. Harmony Elite with Playbar. Really need the ability to control these commands via remote.

To Sonos: Harmony folks are happy to add commands to their database, but it’s not clear yet if it’s possible to do that for these commands. I believe you (Sonos) need to at least confirm whether or not the “night mode” and “speech” commands are addressable from a 3rd parry remote. If they are, we can get Harmony to add them.

If they are not, feature request here for you —> “make speech and night mode toggle-able via 3rd party remotes, such as harmony”.
controlav
Lead Maestro
June 10, 2019
On Sonos these options are simple UPnP commands, but I know nothing about Harmony integration.
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Airgetlam
June 11, 2019
I've been given to understand that Harmony (which I use, sparingly) hasn't properly integrated the "approved" API/system for connecting to Sonos. Not being an engineer, I can't vouch for the veracity of that statement, but that might be a secondary cause to this issue.

Which seems odd to me. I am pretty sure that Sonos has published everything necessary. I don't understand why Logitech/Harmony hasn't integrated it properly. But based on Tbizza's post, it sounds like there's some sort of miscommunication going on, at least from the customer service perspective. Which aren't always in the loop with regards to corporate or engineering decision making. I just don't know.
Bruce
Ken_Griffiths
June 11, 2019
I know the Sonos Alexa skill supports these two new(ish) voice commands to enable “Night Mode” and “Speech Enhancement” ...

"Switch to Night Mode on Dining Room" to turn on night mode via voice.
"Switch to Speech Enhancement mode on Dining Room" to turn on speech enhancement via voice.

So that at least shows these commands must be available to third party apps, possibly via UPnP or the API.

I think the reason Logitech have not enabled these features on the Harmony Remotes is the current controls are for use with all Sonos devices in a household and the “Night Mode” and “Speech Enhancement” features are obviously only applicable for the Home Theatre products. So my thoughts are Logitech wanted to standardise things across the board for every Sonos device and deliberately chose to not confuse things with these additional controls for a few Sonos HT devices.

Obviously this is something that Logitech would need to implement.