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Neven
Chromatic Producer I
July 15, 2019
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SUB benefits

Hi forum members,

I've been using the playbar for a while now. I love the sound quality but want to add the SUB to "beef" it up. I know that SUB transforms the playbar but my concern will I notice the difference in all cases?Let me clarify. I am watching mostly IPTV with stereo sound. If playbar tries to create fake surround sound from every type of audio you throw at it (i think this is the case) how will the added SUB recognize what frequencies to "take" from playbar?

Thank you

Neven
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    ratty
    rattyAnswer
    July 15, 2019
    For stereo PCM, "surround" (fake or otherwise) has no meaning. Playbar simply applies a low-pass filter and redirects the lowest frequencies out to the Sub.

    Even with DD5.1 content, I believe Sub may supplement the LFE/.1 channel content with bass content derived from the front channels.
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    buzz
    buzz
    Grand Maestro
    July 16, 2019

    Sorry, but I don't quite get this "washed a window". Is this a good thing?


    OK, maybe that part of the analogy didn't work.

    I was trying to imply that looking through a window will not ever duplicate the experience of being outside, but if the inside of the window is dirty, removing the dirt will improve the experience. Simplifying PLAYBAR's task by stripping out the bass will improve the overall clarity.

    Goodness of sound is always in the ear of the listener. For some listeners adding SUB will be a dramatic improvement, for other listeners, not so much.

    ratty's comment about placement is spot on.

    Best placement would be hanging on the wall under the TV. Also, avoid shelving or walls too close to the ends of PLAYBAR because some sound is projected out the ends. Surfaces too close to the ends will cause reflections that damage the overall impression.

    You should experiment with adjusting the highs a bit. Boosting the highs (slightly) would normally improve voice intelligibility, however, in your room a (slight) reduction in highs might be better. There will be a difference between drapes open and drapes closed.
    NevenAuthor
    Chromatic Producer I
    July 16, 2019


    Sorry, but I don't quite get this "washed a window". Is this a good thing?
    OK, maybe that part of the analogy didn't work.

    I was trying to imply that looking through a window will not ever duplicate the experience of being outside, but if the inside of the window is dirty, removing the dirt will improve the experience. Simplifying PLAYBAR's task by stripping out the bass will improve the overall clarity.
    Yes, i got it on second reading.
    Goodness of sound is always in the ear of the listener. For some listeners adding SUB will be a dramatic improvement, for other listeners, not so much.

    I hope my experience will be later.
    ratty's comment about placement is spot on.

    Best placement would be hanging on the wall under the TV. Also, avoid shelving or walls too close to the ends of PLAYBAR because some sound is projected out the ends. Surfaces too close to the ends will cause reflections that damage the overall impression.
    I will try to rethink playbar position, but i do admire it sounds so good being in the worst place imaginable. The playbar is 20 cm above the TV.The sound travels first toward the high vaulted ceilng and then bounces to my listening position 5,5 metres away. I am considering wall monting it to a beam (no pun intended) and then the Playbar wold be more than 1 m higher then it is now. But the vertical orientation would shoot the sound 45 degrees downward, which could improve the sound.

    You should experiment with adjusting the highs a bit. Boosting the highs (slightly) would normally improve voice intelligibility, however, in your room a (slight) reduction in highs might be better. There will be a difference between drapes open and drapes closed.
    I did perform trueplay but i will play wit the EQ a bit too find the correct setting. After I get the SUB, offcourse 😀
    Neven
    nik9669a
    Senior Virtuoso
    July 16, 2019
    Make sure to run Trueplay again after you install the sub.
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