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Contributor I
February 28, 2020
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Sonos with Yamaha receiver and streaming from laptop

I have an LG projector and a Yamaha receiver, Sonos beam and sub, and wired in surround backs wired to my sonos amp. I typically stream stuff off my laptop through the yamaha receiver which then feeds the video to the projector. The receiver is a TSR-7850 and has an HDMI ARC. I can get picture going from my laptop to my projector but I can’t get corresponding sound through the receiver to my beam and subsequently throughout the surround sound sonos setup. What am I doing wrong?

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    Airgetlam
    AirgetlamAnswer
    February 29, 2020

    Completely understand. ;)

    There are two places I’d be looking at in your system. And I’m not near my Win10 machine to double check for accuracy, so I’ll be somewhat vague, and trust you to poke around and find these things and maybe learn where things are, and figure out where I am just some looney on the inter webs.

    The first place is in the app you’re using to play the files. There should be somewhere in the app where you can control what kind of audio is being sent out.

    The second place is in the Win 10 settings for either Audio or perhaps Video, where you are able to configure the output of the HDMI output, and define what kind of audio is included with the video stream. 

    Look around for those two settings. I think if the first works, you wouldn’t have to worry about the second...but only if that player app is the only one you ever use to play a video. The latter, being a full system setting, is more likely to help in future use. 

     

    Bruce

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    Airgetlam
    March 6, 2020

    Source set to Dolby digital. Not Auto, not Dolby Digital Plus, not anything other than Dolby Digital. This may be a challenge on your Shield,  I would be testing with something I know works, such as a standard DVD player. Once the path works, you can go back and substitute back in the Shield, or the PC, or pretty much anything else. Reduce the variables until you can prove the process works.

    Source connected via HDMI to HDMI switch.

    Optical cable from HDMI switch to adapter for Beam, or directly to PLAYBAR or PLAYBASE.

    HDMI cable from switch to viewing device for video feed.

    This should work. Once you’ve proven to yourself that the process works, you can start substituting devices, like the laptop, or the Shield, as the source,  and identify whether or not they are capable of sending a Dolby Digital signal. 

     

    Bruce
    mykasdAuthor
    Contributor I
    March 6, 2020

    Ok team, we’re making progress here.

    I tried running this through another Tv under the following set up: Shield (my streaming device) HDMI plugged into back of Tv, then Beam via HDMI/optical adapter into optical output of Tv. I got picture through the Tv and audio through the Beam! Success!

    I then tried introducing the extractor: Shield HDMI into input of the extractor, HDMI from extractor to Tv and optical to Beam. I got picture on my Tv but no audio on the Beam. I’m guessing this means my extractor is no good, so I’ve ordered a new one and will report back after I try that out.

    Anyone have any other thoughts or a different conclusion than what I came up with?

    Airgetlam
    March 6, 2020

    I’d still be testing using something other than the Shield. My suspicion is that the TV’s HDMI-CEC was forcing the Shield into Dolby Digital, which is something the switch would not be able to do. 

    Bruce
    mykasdAuthor
    Contributor I
    March 6, 2020

    I have the shield set to output only DD

    Airgetlam
    March 6, 2020

    Ok, I’ll stop commenting then. Good luck!

    Bruce
    mykasdAuthor
    Contributor I
    March 6, 2020

    No, I appreciate any help I can get @Airgetlam ! Truly! I would try another input like a DVD player but I do not own one. The only other thing I can try is my laptop, which was one of the sources of error (potentially) to begin with at the start of this week.

    mykasdAuthor
    Contributor I
    March 7, 2020

    Ok guys, I’m calling it quits. A new extractor came in today so that I could be sure I had good equipment. I tried everything, even introduced a new optical cord to connect into the audio port of the Yamaha receiver to try to then push that to the Sonos. Nothing worked. Multiple extractors, HDMI splitters, receivers, nothing is working. For some reason, when connected to the projector, the audio just did not want to work. When connected to a Tv, it worked fine…

    I’m send the Sonos back and ordering some wired speakers. Thanks for everyone’s help on this!

    buzz
    Grand Maestro
    March 8, 2020

    myksad,

    The projector might be part of the problem. Another component of the HDMI signals shared between the units is EDID. EDID allows sources and sinks to inform each other which audio and video formats are supported.  If your projector replies “no audio”, the source might not send audio with the video. If no audio is sent, there is nothing to extract.

    I didn’t check out the spec’s of the extractors that you tried, but some switches and extractors (not the cheap models) allow one to customize the EDID sent back to the source. With one of these units you could trick the source into sending audio if the projector would normally report “no audio”.

    mykasdAuthor
    Contributor I
    March 10, 2020

    I just had a thought - would Sonos connect work if I have my surround back speakers (two sets) hard wired into my Yamaha receiver and my Nvidia shield connected into that directly as well along with the projector as an output? Then I could use Sonos connect to bring in the Beam and the subwoofer?

    Ken_Griffiths
    March 10, 2020

    I just had a thought - would Sonos connect work if I have my surround back speakers (two sets) hard wired into my Yamaha receiver and my Nvidia shield connected into that directly as well along with the projector as an output? Then I could use Sonos connect to bring in the Beam and the subwoofer?

    Connecting an A/V source, where the audio is split and goes via a line-in to Sonos devices, will result in 'lip-sync’ issues with the projector video output, with what will be a stereo only signal, as the audio is buffered by minimum of 75ms delay in these circumstances. So I doubt this would achieve the outcome you are perhaps looking for here.