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Avid Contributor I
May 1, 2018

Sonos S14 thoughts and wishes

Hi. I actually enlisted all my Sonos for sale, as I think Sonos isn't up to date and actually doesn't have the visions to be (for us surround users) updated, only for multiroom purpose.

BUT, now s14 is in the horizon which is rumored to have hdmi. For at start I think its nice, since I will be able to control Sonos sound on my Apple TV remote app.
In this scenario, it would be nice and some kind of a must if this S14 has at least one hdmi input.I use all my hdmi inputs on my old b6 and would have to skip one unit in order to make place for at Sonos soundbar with hdmi. I think many Sonos users use all of their hdmi inputs on tv as its kind of the thoughts - the tv is the hub.
BUT isn't this against Sonos´s "bulletproof" philosophy?. im thinking on handshake issues, personally I could think Sonos only supports sound on hdmi, in order to avoid handshake issues.
Well it may have a hdmi 2.1 socket which have the capacity to potentially fix many of these hdmi issues.
Which brings me to my next thought - atmosphere is the shi... right now and is quite common, is it really realistic to think Sonos AND atmos.
Well hardwarewise I could think a Sonos connect for atmosphere or play one/1.

How about the design? The blueprints shows a square?

What are your thoughts and wishes for this new home theater unit?
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melvimbe
May 8, 2018
I'm not betting on it. I just think there is too much not music/speaker related that Alexa and Google do that Sonos doesn't want to recreate. There all those various skills, smart home control, and so on.

However, there are clearly features Sonos needs that Alexa and Google are not as inclined to implement. Those being grouping, better ducking, and more importantly, access to local libraries and competing music services. I imagine there are customers who are more interested in this and would happily by a dot or a google mini for everything else.

But is there a way to get the best of both worlds? Perhaps if Sonos would allow a secondary wake work so that you talk to Alexa or you could talk directly to Sonos? Or perhaps this voice assistant is some sort of shared project where smart home control is filled in by Samsung, and various information is filled in by other companies participating in the process? If the later is the case, it feels like that would be a long way off. And the project feels like it's more about creating an engine all participating companies can use for their own purposes in separate instance, not so much creating one giant engine they all share to compete with the existing big players.

Thinking about it more, I'd still bet against it coming to pass anytime soon, but not as strongly as originally thought.
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Danny
inopinatus
Prominent Collaborator I
May 11, 2018
Playbase can’t ever do atmos. It can’t be sent via toslink.
Actually, it does have a fast ethernet port with submillisecond latency and enough bandwidth to carry Atmos. The port connectivity is not the problem. The lack of onboard Atmos-capable signal processing is the problem. They'd have to build an external decoding box to plug into that ethernet port, one with so many smarts that it'd basically be the a replacement for the Connect.
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Enthusiast II
May 11, 2018
Not sure if we can post links here so I'll just tell you guys

As if we need more evidence of a new soundbar - bestbuy is trying to move Playbase stock

If you go into the bestbuy store (not online) - you can buy the Playbase for 60% off - yes the Playbase is $280 at bestbuy, discounted from its normal price of $699
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Chris
Lead Maestro
May 11, 2018
Pretty good deal if Playbar fits well in your system.
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chicks
May 11, 2018

Thinking about it more, I'd still bet against it coming to pass anytime soon, but not as strongly as originally thought.


I’ll bet you a nickel they have been looking at Soundify since the get go (I figured as much aloud here back then). Alexa probably won out because it was extremely well documented, Amazon made commitments, it looked easier, etc, etc. But, while it brings a lot of things, like AI and connectivity to devices, it brings a lot of limitations, too, like a very limited set of supported services, no support for local files, etc. Soundify would allow Sonos to voice-enable all services and local files, something the CEO has said is coming, possibly this year. Alexa isn’t going anywhere, Google is next, but Soundify may very well be in Sonos future, too. “Hey Sonos! Group Kitchen and Living Room!” “OK”. 😉
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Chris
Lead Maestro
May 11, 2018
Good stuff chicks!
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brombergAuthor
Avid Contributor I
May 18, 2018
Oh i forgot, i would really like to be able to use wireless Bluetooth headphones on Sonos
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Chris
Lead Maestro
May 18, 2018
It much way to ever do that except with a Connect (only Sonos device with output)
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Sonosjunkie
Prodigy III
May 18, 2018
Oh i forgot, i would really like to be able to use wireless Bluetooth headphones on Sonos

Not being sarcastic, but what for exactly? I’m struggling to think of an use case that is not better addressed by having the same stream play direct (to headphones). Curious what the purpose of powering on a lot of speakers, only to put on headphones would be. I’m probably missing the point though ?
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brombergAuthor
Avid Contributor I
May 18, 2018
Well all most any modern receiver has an Bluetooth output.
I have a pair of b&w p7 wireless - sure i can use it for Movies on Apple tv (atv has Bluetooth output).
But im not able to have audio from DVB-c or any streaming services on my smart tv.
Sure its not Sonos’s “problem” but its would be a nice fix.
I would be so much easier If i wouldnt have to shift Bluetooth Connectivity from atv 4k to ps4 an still miss out on Netflix because of no options for headphone audio:)
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