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Sonos Playbar 2 with HDMI and other additional features

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February 7, 2014
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I completely understand the problem to add DTS re-coding to the current Playbar due to the fact
of introducing audio delay. And since the Sonos Playbar is only
responsible for audio, this delay can't be added for video as well.

Therefore, I would like Sonos to make a Sonos Playbar 2 or Sonos PlaybarHDMI which takes care about audio and video. DTS and other sound formats could be easily re-coded into a supported audio format and the audio/video sync could be kept.

But it could also address other improvement possibilities:
- Display "Volume" onscreen
- Support IR remote controls (and others as well) to adjust night mode and speech enhancement
- Multiple HDMI inputs / HDMI switch
- Display currently played music (while not in TV mode)
- Possibility to steer music with basic controls via IR (Play/Pause, Next track, Previous track, radio stations)
- Possibility to add two front channels (Playbar + 4x Play:1 + Sub)
- Possibility to increase width of Playbar to fit it to the size of the TV

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Josh D

Virtuoso

I have no insights to their plans, but if Sonos should release anything new to accommodate to those and similar needs, it should be a modular IO/Unit, maybe Sonos:IO?

HDMI Input
Analog Input
Optical Out
DAC with 24bit support
ROM to store on-demand licensing (AirPlay encryption key/license, DTS, etc)
2 port Gigabit Switch

This essentially requires a new AMP/Processor.

At the same time, there are plenty solutions out there to accommodate to that, called AVR or Pre/Pro Amps. The key stipulation would be a TOSLINK output to connect the Playbar directly and all the above would be taken care of (except OSD function). Most AVR manufactures offer Bluetooth and AirPlay modules (inbuilt or as accessory).

If we take Sonos:AMP as reference point a new component would likely range above the price of the Playbar.

Guess the question is if Sonos customer would be 'cool' with an additional $700+ device?

Thoughts?

With that HDMI Input, You'd need HDMI out too.

- SONOS user since 4th September 2010 - Report innapropriate posts using the flag in the bottom right of the post

Dave

Headliner II

I have no insights to their plans, but if Sonos should release anything new to accommodate to those and similar needs, it should be a modular IO/Unit, maybe Sonos:IO?

HDMI Input
Analog Input
Optical Out
DAC with 24bit support
ROM to store on-demand licensing (AirPlay encryption key/license, DTS, etc)
2 port Gigabit Switch

This essentially requires a new AMP/Processor.

At the same time, there are plenty solutions out there to accommodate to that, called AVR or Pre/Pro Amps. The key stipulation would be a TOSLINK output to connect the Playbar directly and all the above would be taken care of (except OSD function). Most AVR manufactures offer Bluetooth and AirPlay modules (inbuilt or as accessory).

If we take Sonos:AMP as reference point a new component would likely range above the price of the Playbar.

Guess the question is if Sonos customer would be 'cool' with an additional $700+ device?

Thoughts?

You spotted the flaw in Bernhard's cunning plan. Had to laugh 🙂

Sonos Boost - PlayBar with Surround Sound Play 1's (Living Room) - Stereo Pair Play 1's (Dining Room) - Stereo Pair Play 1's (Kitchen) - Amp with two Canton 845 ceiling speakers (Bathroom) - Sonos Move - HomePod Mini x1

C

CosmoNerd

Enthusiast II

I have no insights to their plans, but if Sonos should release anything new to accommodate to those and similar needs, it should be a modular IO/Unit, maybe Sonos:IO?

HDMI Input
Analog Input
Optical Out
DAC with 24bit support
ROM to store on-demand licensing (AirPlay encryption key/license, DTS, etc)
2 port Gigabit Switch

This essentially requires a new AMP/Processor.

At the same time, there are plenty solutions out there to accommodate to that, called AVR or Pre/Pro Amps. The key stipulation would be a TOSLINK output to connect the Playbar directly and all the above would be taken care of (except OSD function). Most AVR manufactures offer Bluetooth and AirPlay modules (inbuilt or as accessory).

If we take Sonos:AMP as reference point a new component would likely range above the price of the Playbar.

Guess the question is if Sonos customer would be 'cool' with an additional $700+ device?

Thoughts?

You guys crack me up 🙂

-Cheers

Dave

Headliner II

I have no insights to their plans, but if Sonos should release anything new to accommodate to those and similar needs, it should be a modular IO/Unit, maybe Sonos:IO?

HDMI Input
Analog Input
Optical Out
DAC with 24bit support
ROM to store on-demand licensing (AirPlay encryption key/license, DTS, etc)
2 port Gigabit Switch

This essentially requires a new AMP/Processor.

At the same time, there are plenty solutions out there to accommodate to that, called AVR or Pre/Pro Amps. The key stipulation would be a TOSLINK output to connect the Playbar directly and all the above would be taken care of (except OSD function). Most AVR manufactures offer Bluetooth and AirPlay modules (inbuilt or as accessory).

If we take Sonos:AMP as reference point a new component would likely range above the price of the Playbar.

Guess the question is if Sonos customer would be 'cool' with an additional $700+ device?

Thoughts?

Have you seen the ARCAM Solo Bar - it offers all this for £100 more than the PlayBar. http://www.arcam.co.uk/range/solo/solobar.htm

Sonos Boost - PlayBar with Surround Sound Play 1's (Living Room) - Stereo Pair Play 1's (Dining Room) - Stereo Pair Play 1's (Kitchen) - Amp with two Canton 845 ceiling speakers (Bathroom) - Sonos Move - HomePod Mini x1

C

CosmoNerd

Enthusiast II

I have no insights to their plans, but if Sonos should release anything new to accommodate to those and similar needs, it should be a modular IO/Unit, maybe Sonos:IO?

HDMI Input
Analog Input
Optical Out
DAC with 24bit support
ROM to store on-demand licensing (AirPlay encryption key/license, DTS, etc)
2 port Gigabit Switch

This essentially requires a new AMP/Processor.

At the same time, there are plenty solutions out there to accommodate to that, called AVR or Pre/Pro Amps. The key stipulation would be a TOSLINK output to connect the Playbar directly and all the above would be taken care of (except OSD function). Most AVR manufactures offer Bluetooth and AirPlay modules (inbuilt or as accessory).

If we take Sonos:AMP as reference point a new component would likely range above the price of the Playbar.

Guess the question is if Sonos customer would be 'cool' with an additional $700+ device?

Thoughts?

No, i wasn't aware of this Dave. Looks pretty sweet. Did you listen to one?

-Cheers

nicka99

Local Superstar

I have no insights to their plans, but if Sonos should release anything new to accommodate to those and similar needs, it should be a modular IO/Unit, maybe Sonos:IO?

HDMI Input
Analog Input
Optical Out
DAC with 24bit support
ROM to store on-demand licensing (AirPlay encryption key/license, DTS, etc)
2 port Gigabit Switch

This essentially requires a new AMP/Processor.

At the same time, there are plenty solutions out there to accommodate to that, called AVR or Pre/Pro Amps. The key stipulation would be a TOSLINK output to connect the Playbar directly and all the above would be taken care of (except OSD function). Most AVR manufactures offer Bluetooth and AirPlay modules (inbuilt or as accessory).

If we take Sonos:AMP as reference point a new component would likely range above the price of the Playbar.

Guess the question is if Sonos customer would be 'cool' with an additional $700+ device?

Thoughts?

I agree with Dave - all this should have been included in the first place at no (or little) extra cost.

Dave

Headliner II

I have no insights to their plans, but if Sonos should release anything new to accommodate to those and similar needs, it should be a modular IO/Unit, maybe Sonos:IO?

HDMI Input
Analog Input
Optical Out
DAC with 24bit support
ROM to store on-demand licensing (AirPlay encryption key/license, DTS, etc)
2 port Gigabit Switch

This essentially requires a new AMP/Processor.

At the same time, there are plenty solutions out there to accommodate to that, called AVR or Pre/Pro Amps. The key stipulation would be a TOSLINK output to connect the Playbar directly and all the above would be taken care of (except OSD function). Most AVR manufactures offer Bluetooth and AirPlay modules (inbuilt or as accessory).

If we take Sonos:AMP as reference point a new component would likely range above the price of the Playbar.

Guess the question is if Sonos customer would be 'cool' with an additional $700+ device?

Thoughts?

No I haven't listened to one, they are only stocked in specialist stores (Richer Sounds etc) I wouldn't mind taking a look, plus this company is in my home town Cambridge. I'm happy with my sonos but if I was in the market for just a sound bar then this would be a very attractive alternative to the current PlayBar - plus I have a 4K TV with HDMI Arc so would cover all my audio output needs. I've only had my PlayBar about 10 months but would happily buy a PlayBar 2 if sonos Incorporated all the features of the Solo Bar.

Sonos Boost - PlayBar with Surround Sound Play 1's (Living Room) - Stereo Pair Play 1's (Dining Room) - Stereo Pair Play 1's (Kitchen) - Amp with two Canton 845 ceiling speakers (Bathroom) - Sonos Move - HomePod Mini x1

Dave

Headliner II

I have no insights to their plans, but if Sonos should release anything new to accommodate to those and similar needs, it should be a modular IO/Unit, maybe Sonos:IO?

HDMI Input
Analog Input
Optical Out
DAC with 24bit support
ROM to store on-demand licensing (AirPlay encryption key/license, DTS, etc)
2 port Gigabit Switch

This essentially requires a new AMP/Processor.

At the same time, there are plenty solutions out there to accommodate to that, called AVR or Pre/Pro Amps. The key stipulation would be a TOSLINK output to connect the Playbar directly and all the above would be taken care of (except OSD function). Most AVR manufactures offer Bluetooth and AirPlay modules (inbuilt or as accessory).

If we take Sonos:AMP as reference point a new component would likely range above the price of the Playbar.

Guess the question is if Sonos customer would be 'cool' with an additional $700+ device?

Thoughts?

Thought that might get your juices flowing, it's a very tempting system. The Solo Bar is at a very competitive price point and no doubt they are aware of the competitions limitations when it comes to connectivity to TV's. On this one I'm with you guys and sonos need to wake up and smell the coffee beans before they are left behind and have declining sales of their PlayBar.

Sonos Boost - PlayBar with Surround Sound Play 1's (Living Room) - Stereo Pair Play 1's (Dining Room) - Stereo Pair Play 1's (Kitchen) - Amp with two Canton 845 ceiling speakers (Bathroom) - Sonos Move - HomePod Mini x1

Josh D

Virtuoso

I have no insights to their plans, but if Sonos should release anything new to accommodate to those and similar needs, it should be a modular IO/Unit, maybe Sonos:IO?

HDMI Input
Analog Input
Optical Out
DAC with 24bit support
ROM to store on-demand licensing (AirPlay encryption key/license, DTS, etc)
2 port Gigabit Switch

This essentially requires a new AMP/Processor.

At the same time, there are plenty solutions out there to accommodate to that, called AVR or Pre/Pro Amps. The key stipulation would be a TOSLINK output to connect the Playbar directly and all the above would be taken care of (except OSD function). Most AVR manufactures offer Bluetooth and AirPlay modules (inbuilt or as accessory).

If we take Sonos:AMP as reference point a new component would likely range above the price of the Playbar.

Guess the question is if Sonos customer would be 'cool' with an additional $700+ device?

Thoughts?

Sonos really needs to get on top of this ASAP.

- SONOS user since 4th September 2010 - Report innapropriate posts using the flag in the bottom right of the post

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User685213

Lyricist III

I have no insights to their plans, but if Sonos should release anything new to accommodate to those and similar needs, it should be a modular IO/Unit, maybe Sonos:IO?

HDMI Input
Analog Input
Optical Out
DAC with 24bit support
ROM to store on-demand licensing (AirPlay encryption key/license, DTS, etc)
2 port Gigabit Switch

This essentially requires a new AMP/Processor.

At the same time, there are plenty solutions out there to accommodate to that, called AVR or Pre/Pro Amps. The key stipulation would be a TOSLINK output to connect the Playbar directly and all the above would be taken care of (except OSD function). Most AVR manufactures offer Bluetooth and AirPlay modules (inbuilt or as accessory).

If we take Sonos:AMP as reference point a new component would likely range above the price of the Playbar.

Guess the question is if Sonos customer would be 'cool' with an additional $700+ device?

Thoughts?

While waiting for Sonos to come up with a good solution, I bought a cheaper soundbar that plays the necessary formats. I am impressed by the quality of the sound.

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