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Avid Contributor I
April 20, 2013

Solving the 5.1, DTS issues with the Playbar

This thread is specifically for those who are trying to understand the Playbars 5.1 and DTS issues.

As most of you know the Playbar does not convert DTS signal. It also will only convert 2.0 to SIMULATED PCM 5.1 signal. If you can live with the simulated signal, then you are ahead of the game. IF you want PURE unadulterated 5.1 from your DirecTV or Cable, you WILL most likely have to buy a switch like this one. http://www.monoprice.com/products/7974
Or a Bluray converter like this one.
http://www.oppodigital.com/blu-ray-bdp-103/

MOST tvs will not convert true 5.1. There are some on this thread that say they do, but most dont. I found this out the hard way by buying one of Samsungs highest end tv's, only to find out that 2.0 is all im ever gunna get.
A $75 switch is a bargain IMO to have such sound to the Playbar the way it is intended. IF you want 1080p up convert video and and 5.1 audio, then a simular Bluray like the Oppo is for you.

Concerning movies that are only on DTS:
Oppo can convert the DTS signal to PCM 5.1 as well. I do not know about the Switch, because I do not have one.
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Contributor I
March 10, 2014
Is that correct? I asked in a different thread and was told that it only does the conversion on the optical output. If it does convert on HDMI output, then I might have to give this player a try.

Thanks!


Has anyone been able to confirm this? Can the BDH-6500 convert DTS to DD over HDMI as well as optical?
Lyricist III
March 12, 2014
It worked for me but I took it back. It introduced a horrible audio sync lag that couldn't be corrected.

Severum
Lyricist III
March 15, 2014
Is that correct? I asked in a different thread and was told that it only does the conversion on the optical output. If it does convert on HDMI output, then I might have to give this player a try.

Thanks!


Yes on the HDMI.
I have HD cable box, blu-ray player and apple tv all hdmi to my tv, and optical out from the tv to the playbar.
Avid Contributor I
March 17, 2014
This thread is specifically for those who are trying to understand the Playbars 5.1 and DTS issues.

As most of you know the Playbar does not convert DTS signal. It also will only convert 2.0 to SIMULATED PCM 5.1 signal. If you can live with the simulated signal, then you are ahead of the game. IF you want PURE unadulterated 5.1 from your DirecTV or Cable, you WILL most likely have to buy a switch like this one. http://www.monoprice.com/products/7974
Or a Bluray converter like this one.
http://www.oppodigital.com/blu-ray-bdp-103/

MOST tvs will not convert true 5.1. There are some on this thread that say they do, but most dont. I found this out the hard way by buying one of Samsungs highest end tv's, only to find out that 2.0 is all im ever gunna get.
A $75 switch is a bargain IMO to have such sound to the Playbar the way it is intended. IF you want 1080p up convert video and and 5.1 audio, then a simular Bluray like the Oppo is for you.

Concerning movies that are only on DTS:
Oppo can convert the DTS signal to PCM 5.1 as well. I do not know about the Switch, because I do not have one.


Can someone shed some light on how to setup the Oppos to convert a DTS signal to PCM 5.1. I've tried all the settings that I can find and I'm not having any luck.
Quintus
Trending Lyricist II
March 17, 2014
This may have been answered earlier but I have not been able to find the answer.

My question relates to this switch from Monoprice (item 5557 for those for whom the link does not work):

http://www.monoprice.com/Product?c_id=101&cp_id=10110&cs_id=1011002&p_id=5557&seq=1&format=2

Note that the remote control unit has an option for 2ch vs. 5.1 channel audio out. My question is whether this solves the DTS issue? I realize that you would be dumbing down 5.1 audio to 2.0 but it is better than no sound at all.

Can someone let me know if this switch has worked for them and what exactly the audio option accomplishes when a DTS track is fed via a DVD or Blu-ray player?
Lyricist III
March 17, 2014
It won't solve the DTS issue, but will allow you to get Dolby 5.1 into the play bar if your TV doesn't currently pass through the 5.1 signal it receives via an HDMI connection.
Contributor I
March 18, 2014
Hey gang, first post on the forum but I have been looking around for over a year and this is a great place.
I have been a sonos junkie now for over a year and half. The wife finds it very easy and I come home to find her blasting her music though out the house! Finding a system she finds easy to use is not short of remarkable.

I own 3 play 5, a sonos amp for my outdoor Kilpsh speakers and the wife got me a pair of play 1 for xmas so I can start my 5.1 sons system. I was able to to pick up the play bar about a month ago and still saving for the sub. I got to say the music sounded outstanding, TV sounded good and movies sounded OK. I was running everything through the TV. Today I received the Monoprice 7974 and WOW. Everything sounds outstanding. Thats the ticket and I now have a system that blows away most everything I've had in the past.

Ive had the 250 watts rms 7.1 systems but I am done with those days. My system sounds clear and just fantastic. Oh, and no wires running all over. I have the samsung DVD and it runs DD5.1 blue ray so I am not feeling like Im missing out on anything. I have a Harmony remote that works everything nicely and the sonos system running 5.1 give us very clear voices in all the movies and show like Ive never had before. Ive kicked the bass up on the play bar until I get the sub and it sounds great. You really need to get a optical switch to make it all work but its worth it and the wife has no problem with me spending money on sonos!!! She loves it to. We are moving in a week and I am pairing a set of play 5 in the basement I have and my house will rock.

I understand folks getting upset that sonos does not run 5.1 out of the box for the money and DTS is a no go but you know what, my system sounds outstanding and everyone is blow away by it and wants to get one. I have less equipment, less wires and it sounds better than the system I had plus it plays any music in my library and radio at the touch of a button and links to my other sonos for a whole house of great music. Worth every penny to me.

Sorry to hijack the thread but getting the optical switch and having a samsung dvd player give me everything I want plus......
Contributor I
April 22, 2014
I was pretty excited when I read your post and came close to purchasing the $500 workaround, but erred on the sided of caution. I contacted Oppo with the simple question of whether the BDP-103 would convert DTS to Dolby 5.1. They replied stating that it doesn't nor was it designed to do so. Still looking.
Lyricist I
May 6, 2014
Hi, I've been trying to find a workaround to play DTS-movies on my playbar. Thought I had to give up but noticed in the latest version of XBMC (13.0) there is support to Enable Dolby Digital transcoding! Works nicely from my HTPC. Just need to buy two ones and test the surround 😃
Trending Lyricist I
May 6, 2014
(edited)

The beta patch (soon to be an official patch in March) for XBox One will allow for DTS signals to be changed into Dolby 5.1 surround sound. I played a Bluray movie (Dark Knight Rises) with the DTS sound track from XBox One and XBox "transformed" that sound track to Dolby Digital 5.1 when sending it to my Vizio television and ultimately to the Sonos SoundBar. I was able to verify that I was getting distinct surround sound from my rear Sonos speakers.

Kind of an expensive workaround if you aren't interested in the Xbox games. It's a shame that Sonos decided not to support DTS.


Bluray movie --> Xbox One --> HDMI --> Vizio TV --> optical --> Sonos PlayBar and rear speakers


This is very interesting! To expand, would this work with it:

Virgin TiVo (HDMI) > XBOX ONE (HDMI) > TV (OPTICAL) > Playbar? =5.1 from TiVo Channels/Blurays played via Xbox one?

What I am trying to gather is if the Xbox one can convert content to 5.1, would it also work if the HDMI from a TiVo box is plugged directly into it, sending it's sound and audio through it to the tv?

would be very greatful is someone could answer this as I am so close to getting the Playbar/Sub/1 or 3 setup... I just want a work around that is feasible and is in line with what I have/will get.


Lastly, can anyone also confirm that the Samsung F8000 is now outputting DD5.1 from it's latest patch/update?