Solving the 5.1, DTS issues with the Playbar

I ordered a Sonos Playbar and Sub and will do some testing this Weekend.
Today i checked my Blu Rays (i know - a little late) and most of them are DTS only :-(

So after testing i have to send it back.

No DTS Support for nearly a Year now - OMG...

I ordered a Sonos Playbar and Sub and will do some testing this Weekend.
Today i checked my Blu Rays (i know - a little late) and most of them are DTS only :-(

So after testing i have to send it back.

No DTS Support for nearly a Year now - OMG...

Get a Samsung BluRay player 5700 and higher, it converts DTS to Dolby 5.1. I have a 6500 and the film soundtrack is superb.

Thanks - i really consider that.

Most time i stream Movies with my Apple TV. I'm really worried that Apple could decider one day to switch over to DTS. Then my new Homecinema System would become useless for me.

Get a Samsung BluRay player 5700 and higher, it converts DTS to Dolby 5.1. I have a 6500 and the film soundtrack is superb.

Sounds like sensible solution while I don't doubt it sounds great I assume something is lost somewhere in this conversion.

Are there any experts that can elaborate on this solution ?

Sounds like sensible solution while I don't doubt it sounds great I assume something is lost somewhere in this conversion.

Are there any experts that can elaborate on this solution ?

I picked up a Samsung BD-F6500 today.

I am currently watching Django Unchained with the DTS-HD audio track selected. The player has the Bitstream re-encode Dolby D option selected. Optical straight from player to Playbar. I also have sub and two rear Play:1s.

And ...

It's glorious. The Playbar is showing DD5.1 input, and the surround speakers are operating correctly. None of that fluttering you get with stereo up scaling to 5.1. As far as I can tell, I am now enjoying a full surround sound experience with the Sonos setup. I am happy!

As for whether there are losses, there does not seem to be a loss of audio positional information. That is, the surround speakers are providing the correct audio as if there was no conversion. Theoretically, a DD track has a lower bit rate than a DTS track. So, there could theoretically be a quality loss. However, I expect hardly anyone would notice - you're getting into proper audiophile territory there and I don't think such a person would choose Sonos anyway.

I got the player from Richer Sounds in the UK for £94.99 - well worth it in my opinion to replace whatever Blu-ray player you may have. Picture quality seems excellent so far too, and there are no audio sync issues whatsoever.

Basically, I am now a happy man!

Great news aldude I can only imagine your joy at releasing those DTS soundtracks. Enjoy and thanks for sharing.

Is there a workaround to get DD from the media players like WD TV live? I have so many movies that have DTS but WD TV live downmixes them to stereo

btw, same old response from sonos: https://ask.sonos.com/sonos/topics/no_clarity_on_playbar_supporting_dts_still_please_dont_be_arrogant

I picked up a Samsung BD-F6500 today.

I am currently watching Django Unchained with the DTS-HD audio track selected. The player has the Bitstream re-encode Dolby D option selected. Optical straight from player to Playbar. I also have sub and two rear Play:1s.

And ...

It's glorious. The Playbar is showing DD5.1 input, and the surround speakers are operating correctly. None of that fluttering you get with stereo up scaling to 5.1. As far as I can tell, I am now enjoying a full surround sound experience with the Sonos setup. I am happy!

As for whether there are losses, there does not seem to be a loss of audio positional information. That is, the surround speakers are providing the correct audio as if there was no conversion. Theoretically, a DD track has a lower bit rate than a DTS track. So, there could theoretically be a quality loss. However, I expect hardly anyone would notice - you're getting into proper audiophile territory there and I don't think such a person would choose Sonos anyway.

I got the player from Richer Sounds in the UK for £94.99 - well worth it in my opinion to replace whatever Blu-ray player you may have. Picture quality seems excellent so far too, and there are no audio sync issues whatsoever.

Basically, I am now a happy man!

Apologies for asking a stupid question, as I am new to all of this Sonos stuff, but how does this work, connection wise?

I am looking at getting a Playbar (I already have a couple of Play 1's) to connect up to my TV, which has an Optical out.
If I understand correctly, the Playbar only has 1 Optical in port

Thus if I get the Samsung BD-F6500 would I have to unplug the optical cable from the TV into the DVD player, which then goes into the playbar, when watching DVD's

What about just watching normal T.V. would I have to unplug the optical cable from the Samsung BD-F6500 and plug it back into the T.V. to get sound out of the playbar or is the Playbar not really used when watching normal T.V.?

Thanks
Andrew

Just tested my new Playbar.
I got 5.1 from Apple TV and TV Receiver. My Sonos Sub wasn't delivered yet, so i miss the Bass right now.
First Impression: The Playbar ist good, but not great. I've got a simple Samsung All-in-One 2.1 HT to test side by side. Without the Sub the Playbar sounds ... mmh... a little bit weak.

Apologies for asking a stupid question, as I am new to all of this Sonos stuff, but how does this work, connection wise?

I am looking at getting a Playbar (I already have a couple of Play 1's) to connect up to my TV, which has an Optical out.
If I understand correctly, the Playbar only has 1 Optical in port

Thus if I get the Samsung BD-F6500 would I have to unplug the optical cable from the TV into the DVD player, which then goes into the playbar, when watching DVD's

What about just watching normal T.V. would I have to unplug the optical cable from the Samsung BD-F6500 and plug it back into the T.V. to get sound out of the playbar or is the Playbar not really used when watching normal T.V.?

Thanks
Andrew

I am new to the forum and to PlayBar, but I believe you would connect your BluRay to the TV with HDMI. If you have other boxes or gadgets, you connect them to the TV with HDMI or other connections if needed and you leave the optical cable connection between the TV and PlayBar alone all the time.

If you browse around you can find some other work arounds that people have come up with to not have all the sound go through the TV (optical switches), but without those workarounds, I believe you do it as I have suggested above. That is how I have my DVD and WD TV live connected. They all go to the TV via HDMI and the TV goes the PlayBar via optical cable.