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Avid Contributor I
June 19, 2013

Recommendations on Optical Audio Switcher for Playbar?

  • June 19, 2013
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Someone recommended an automatic 2 input optical audio switcher in one of the original playbar threads. It was from monoprice and the link is dead, and a search on monoprice makes it look like it's discontinued with nothing else up in its place.

I'm buying a new TV soon but based on what research I've done, it's impossible to be certain any TV I buy will have proper 5.1 optical switching. 99% chance it will not have it in spite of what people casually report on the internet.

So, I'll need to buy an optical audio switcher. I need to route at least three inputs, ideally four to help future proof me. And it needs to support 5.1. It does me no good if it downgrades the signal to 2.x.

I'm also debating over whether I should just buy another A/V receiver. I sold my old A/V receiver with my old 5.1 speaker set when I bought my playbar. As ridiculous as it sounds (and actually is), my best bet may be to buy a cheap $100 to $200 A/V receiver and use that for all my audio routing to the Playbar.

Then when friends come over and marvel at the slim form factor and design of the Playbar, I can point out that they'll need a gigantic A/V receiver in order to get it working properly.

I would also consider an HDMI switcher that has the appropriate audio output that parses out the correct 5.1 audio signal.

Ideally, whatever I choose, it's automatic with a manual override. I like the idea that whichever of the 4 inputs are outputting a signal is the one that is live. With the ability to manually switch for diagnostic or special use circumstances.

If that Monoprice unit comes back, even though it's just a dual unit, maybe I can get away with running two of them, one into the other, to get the 3 inputs that I need.

Or maybe someone will report that Sonos has come out with an official list of TVs that support the Playbar's intended functionality that it was engineered around (re: sending 5.1 out of optical). I haven't been on the forums in a few months and a cursory skim through thread posts didn't reveal anything new, although it sounds like Sonos may release a DTS update through software based on some rumors I read on the forums so that's exciting.
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    Avid Contributor II
    June 15, 2016
    New Sonos owner here (Playbar, Sub, Play 1 surrounds) and I'm a bit hung-up on the optimal connectivity solution. I need to connect an Apple TV 4, Xbox One via an HDMI splitter/optical audio extractor in order to get 5.1 to my Playbar from all the devices. I've read up on the Monoprice and Octava options but neither seems to meet my needs. Does anyone know of an HDMI switch or setup that fulfils these criteria?
    - CEC enabled HDMI switch (so Apple TV turns on/off with TV set)
    - "Auto-switching" HDMI switch (so I just need to power up the Xbox or Apple TV and the input will auto-select without the need for a separate remote).

    I realize the Xbox is not CEC compatible, which is why HDMI auto switching would be nice. But I would also like to retain the CEC function of the Apple TV being able to power on/off the TV set.

    Would my best bet be something like this Monoprice CEC compatible HDMI switch (auto switches via CEC, not sure if this will work for the Xbox override?) http://www.monoprice.com/product?p_id=6259
    PLUS an optical audio extractor like this in order to feed 5.1 audio directly from the switch to the Playbar:
    https://www.amazon.com/J-Tech-Digital-Premium-Extractor-Converter/dp/B00BIQER0E/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1466021671&sr=1-1&keywords=J-Tech+Digital+®+Premium+Quality+1080P+HDMI+To+HDMI+%2B+Audio+%28SPDIF+%2B+RCA+Stereo%29+Audio+Extractor+Converter+%28Support+Apple+TV+4+Gen%29

    Thanks in advance for any suggestions!
    Avid Contributor II
    June 15, 2016
    UPDATE: Found this switch on Amazon which seems like it fits the bill perfectly for my needs. Anyone tried it?
    https://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B00MSAU8XO/ref=ox_sc_act_title_3?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=A3GEYN3RYNFMBE
    Contributor I
    January 8, 2017
    Someone recommended an automatic 2 input optical audio switcher in one of the original playbar threads. It was from monoprice and the link is dead, and a search on monoprice makes it look like it's discontinued with nothing else up in its place...


    The most important part of this question for me still hasn't been addressed in this thread from three years ago. All of the amazing switches people are recommending come with their own little remote control.

    None of them offer AUTOMATIC switching between live sources. This is CRUCIAL. My wife needs to text me every time she turns the projector on to watch movies with her family when I'm not home now. The LAST thing we need is a third remote.

    Has anyone found something that will automatically switch between sources as they are toggled on and off? I need the Playbar to pick up my Apple TV when it turns on, after the PS4 is turned off.

    AUTOMATIC is the magic word in this original post that Google keeps deciding makes it necessary to show in the results of my endless searches. 😃
    Airgetlam
    January 9, 2017
    Yea, I understand your frustration. Until a week ago, I assumed they had automatic ones as well, until I did some research, since I don't own one or use one myself. As a stopgap measure, I could recommend using a Logitech Universal remote, which would allow you to change the inputs on all devices as needed? It has a high WAF ( I installed one for a friend ), and it does a great job of managing all of the random extra things that go with having a more complex setup. Takes a minute or two to figure out Logitech's programming interface, but it really is quite flexible, and then would have the benefit of allowing your wife to deal with things without texting you.

    Yea, it's an extra expense, but might be worth it to remove the frustration from your life.
    Bruce
    Lyricist I
    April 2, 2017
    After a ton of googling...
    2-in / 1-out: https://www.lindy-usa.com/2-way-automatic-toslink-digital-optical-audio-switch-70405.html
    4-in / 1-out: https://www.amazon.com/TOSLink-Automatic-Switcher-Authority-1177A-1/dp/B01FWTR30S

    The first company also has a 4-in / 1-out, but it's not automatic : https://www.lindy-usa.com/4-way-toslink-digital-optical-audio-switch-70416.html

    I don't have any of these yet, but am thinking of grabbing the Lindy 2-way shortly.
    Contributor II
    April 3, 2017
    This TV definitely passes Dolby Digital via the optical out on the back "Sony Bravia 55XE9305 LED HDR 4K Ultra HD Smart Android TV, 55" with Freeview HD, Youview & Ultra-Slim Design". I have it working with my SKY Q and Apple TV boxes which are connected to HDMI on the TV.
    Lyricist I
    September 9, 2017
    Hi all - will this setup work:

    4 devices into HDMI Switch
    HDMI from Switch (travelling about 20ft where TV and Playbar sit) to a HDMI SPLITTER (1 HDMI IN = 1 HDMI out + Optical out)
    HDMI from Splitter to TV for Video
    Optical from Splitter to Playbar

    What do you guys think?
    Virtuoso
    September 9, 2017
    I use kwmobile EDID feeders, you need one per HDMI port. This lets all devices pass 5.1 through the TV HDMI's to TOSlink and you use your TV exactly as normal (VERY important to me!).

    The reason TV's struggle is because they handshake with the Blu-ray players etc and report themselves as a STEREO device, the Blu-ray/ Set Top Box etc will then only feed a stereo signal to the TV and hence the Playbar..
    Collaborator II
    September 9, 2017
    AUTOMATIC is the magic word in this original post that Google keeps deciding makes it necessary to show in the results of my endless searches. :D
    As Airgetlam mentions, get a Logitech Harmony remote, hands down. The new ones can even control the Sonos features itself.

    As a thought for more advanced switching going up to a TV, I'm surprised that nobody's come across the Outlaw 975: https://www.outlawaudio.com/products/975.html

    It will pass the audio over HDMI directly to the TV, and lets you switch not just HDMI, but a variety of other sources as well. It's the flexibility of an AVR, without the bulk of one and the amplifiers of one. Plus, you can use its preamp outs to run things like built-in rear speakers. Probably the most flexible switching system out there that's less than $1,000. 🙂
    Avid Contributor I
    October 16, 2017
    Hello Folks,

    Question:

    If I purchase the toslink adapter to accommodate multiple sources, ( cable, dvd, PS4, Xbox ) do I need to manuall switch the adapter to the corresponding source I wish to use?
    If so, do they have make an automatic adapter that recognizes what source you are activating?

    Thanks.