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October 23, 2022

Question about HDMI eARC and Sonos Beam / Arc

  • October 23, 2022
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I have been using a Playbar for years.  The optical port is now broken so I’m looking for a replacement.

My LG C1 has an HDMI eARC port so I have been looking at the Beam or Arc.

Conceptually I don’t understand how eARC works. 

So if the eARC port is HDMI 2 then I run an HDMI cable from 2 to the soundbar and that HDMI port is now solely used for audio?

Luckily on this setup I have a free HDMI port so it’s not a big deal but paring down 4 ports to 3 to use one for audio might be problematic in other setups without a receiver.

Do I have that right?  Sorry for the newb questions!  Thanks

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buzz
Grand Maestro
October 24, 2022

You would connect the LG’s eARC port directly to the SONOS ARC or you could use the dongle that you had been using with PLAYBAR. If you use the eARC connection higher quality audio formats are available that cannot be sent over the optical connection.

A TV’s ARC or eARC connection has a two way audio connection. This allows a TV to send audio from TV Apps back to an A/V system. A regular HDMI connection is a one way path from an external source to the TV.

Ken_Griffiths
October 24, 2022

Yes, the Sonos Arc/Beam can connect to the TV’s HDMI-ARC/eARC port which is usually HDMI-2 on most LG TV’s and you can then use HDMI-1, 3 and 4 for other connected devices (Apple TV etc.), but if you need more ports, just add an HDMI switch device to any of those other TV HDMI ports.

Of course you could also connect the Arc/Beam to the TV’s optical port too using the Optical-to-HDMI adapter that is supplied with the Arc/Beam.

Here’s a ‘quick’ overview chart showing the differences between each of the TV ports:

 

 

Airgetlam
October 24, 2022

eARC and ARC are both created by electronics that generally are in the TV set (although Feintech and HD Fury have external versions). 

Any HDMI input on the TV set sends their signal through the processor inside, which then sends the audio signal back out on different pins in the HDMI cable that is connected to the port labeled eARC or ARC, so any HDMI input connected to the TV will cause the audio output to that port. Note, if you have an analog input on the TV, it usually won’t convert that signal to ARC.

Yes, reducing your HDMI ports by one to connect the Sonos can be problematic, TV manufacturers tend to not understand many of us use every available port, and then some. Fortunately, there are simple HDMI switches that can be used for input, so all is not lost. 
 

Edit: Ken beat me ;)

Bruce
JFischerAuthor
Trending Lyricist I
October 24, 2022

Thanks for the explanation everyone I get it now.

Luckily I have a free HDMI port on the TV so I will move my Apple TV to HDMI 4 and use the HDMI 2/ARC port for an Arc / Beam upgrade.

I have another LG C1 in another room using a Playbar with a dodgy optical port but all HDMI ports are being used so if I switch over I will have to use that optical adapter

106rallye
October 24, 2022

You do have a valid point: for many people the standard of four HDMI ports on a TV does not seem to be enough. Most people have a cable box and a soundbar, which only leaves two free connections, easily filled by the PS5 and Nvidia Shield in my case..

October 24, 2022

My set up requires only one HDMI Port on the TV, although an HDFury Arcana partly explains that.  I have a Sky Stream box, a Fire TV and a Blu-Ray player connected to an HDMI switch, which connects to the Arcana, which sends one HDMI cable to port 2 (HDMI/ARC) on the TV and another cable (as eARC} to the Sonos Arc.

Two reasons for this set up:

  1. My 2016 LG TV doesn’t do Atmos
  2. The TV introduced an audio lag resulting in lip sync issues.  (And bat striking ball issues!).  By-passing the TV with the audio cures this.

In effect, my LG TV is now just a monitor.  All the grunt is done by external devices.

Ken_Griffiths
October 24, 2022

@JFischer,

I use a switch with an LG TV aswell and have 6 devices connected, that’s including the Sonos Arc - the LG TV WebOS operating system handles all of these as a separate input (as attached image). The switch I use has an infrared remote, which I have linked to a Harmony Hub (a simple process of pointing the remote at the hub and recording its IR signals), that allows the changing of IR input using Alexa (eg. Alexa, turn on input 1, 3, 4 etc.) that’s just so we don’t have to reach for a separate remote to switch inputs - the only issue I have, is that the switching can sometimes take a while, but that’s a delay caused by the Alexa/Harmony Hub integration, but I’ve become accustomed with the 20+ second delay for the input to switch.

The LG TV/WebOS though handles a switch rather well, so I would certainly not rule out that option.

JFischerAuthor
Trending Lyricist I
October 24, 2022

@Ken_Griffiths 

This might be a separate topic but I see you are using a Harmony Hub with your LG / Sonos setup.

I am using a Harmony Elite remote with my C1 and prior to the new C1 I used it with an OLED65E6P.

I had it setup with the E6P where when I would hit the vol up/down/mute on the Harmony it would control the Playbar AND send a signal to the LG TV where I would see the fixed Vol+/- or mute icon.

Now it controls the Playbar but there are no visual indicators on the LG TV.  If I use the remote that came with the LG, I get both.  I remember there was a trick to getting the Harmony to do both but I don’t recall what that is whether it be a setting on the Harmony or a setting on Universal Control on the TV.

Any idea what I am talking about?  Thanks!

Ken_Griffiths
October 24, 2022

@JFischer,

I’m not sure as I use the Magic Remote (obviously), but if I adjust the TV volume in the Harmony App (see screenshot attached) then pressing vol+/- does give me the on-screen display of +/- that you mention - I’m thinking the your Harmony remote might be controlling a connected Cable TV box perhaps and that is communicating via HDMI-CEC with the TV instead and that ‘might’ be why you are perhaps not seeing the volume display on the TV - but that’s just a bit of a guess on my part.

JFischerAuthor
Trending Lyricist I
October 24, 2022

@Ken_Griffiths 

Yeah, I’m not sure.  I disabled CEC on all inputs and I don’t get the +/-/mute indicators on any input (PS5, Apple TV & cable box).

I got it to work so long ago I wish I could remember how.

I tried setting up an activity on the Harmony where it would send the vol command to the Playbar AND LG TV and that worked but the lowest delay I can have between sending commands is one second so that is pretty laggy.

In the end it’s not a deal-breaker but I should probably wait until I swap out the Playbar for a Beam/Arc before I try solving this issue.