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Contributor I
February 22, 2015

Playbar doesn't work with RF (Philips) remotes

  • February 22, 2015
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Playbar doesn't work with RF remotes (Philips), welcome to the wireless world of Sonos! When will this problem really be solved and not by using another remote!
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    buzz
    Grand Maestro
    September 24, 2015
    In my opinion companies use the RF option to deliberately make their products incompatible with everything else, the advantage being that the customer is encouraged to purchase more (sometimes compatible) products from the company. It is particularly difficult to maintain RF compatibility because legal and customary frequencies vary by geographic region. One of the reasons driving Bluetooth adoption is this chaos of RF standards.

    One of the few advantages of RF over Bluetooth is increased operating range. This is also a big disadvantage in many areas because there is more unwanted interaction between neighboring systems. Also, some of the RF frequencies are shared with industrial devices. I've seen situations where there was so much interference that consumer RF devices could not operate in an urban residential area. A disadvantage of RF is that we customarily use lower frequencies (to provide provide increased operating range) and these lower frequencies require larger antennas (this is the physics of the situation) -- resulting in physically larger devices. Finally, there is economy of scale. At this point there are many more Bluetooth and WiFi controlled devices than RF controlled devices -- driving the relative production costs for Bluetooth and WiFi down.
    Lyricist I
    November 9, 2015
    I to have a philips rf remote. All i get from the support is get/buy a separate remote to controle the sound. I think more and more tv's will have a rf remote so the problem will get bigger and bigger. The best solution would be for sonos to make a small receiver for rf signals that turns out ir codes or controle through wifi so we can controle the whole system with the standard tv remote. second best would be to include that second small ir remote in the package of the bar for those that have rf remotes. Als put a large warning on the site about the soundbar is not working with rf remotes!
    Chris
    Lead Maestro
    November 9, 2015
    It would be near impossible for them to make an RF repeater that works for all RF TV's.

    Most RF TV's have a blaster cable for the very reason in that no consumer devices are compatible with their RF.

    What device will work with your TV RF - name one?

    Any TV IR remote you have in your house will work to control the playbar. No included is needed.

    Are you saying your TV has no blaster cable output?
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    Lyricist I
    February 6, 2017
    I solved this by buying a remote for ie 60pus6809 on eBay. Almost same remote but with ir. Lost the pointer functionality and qwerty keyboard on the back, but Works perfectly on everything else.