Playbar and hdmi rumor. (late 2018 / early 2019)

Apparently fake news. See his admission in the 2018 Playbar thread.

Apparently fake news. See his admission in the 2018 Playbar thread. do you have a link? I've read what he says but find it rather weird now that he is doing everything in his power to get the "news" to be fake. Might as well be real

Sorry, wasn't at home, and was using a phone. Here's the link:

https://en.community.sonos.com/home-theater-228993/next-generation-playbar-2018-6793521/index1.html#post16205872

Sorry, wasn't at home, and was using a phone. Here's the link:

https://en.community.sonos.com/home-theater-228993/next-generation-playbar-2018-6793521/index1.html#post16205872 doesn't mean it's fake. He might as well say that because he wasn't allowed to release the information. And why bother making such a in depth article about it if it's just fake. Fud.
Not sure what is true but I won't buy a playbar before a new one comes out. I got a play 3 and I'm ready to complete my whole 5.1 setup but won't do it before Sonos get hdmi (dts / atmos)

Sorry, wasn't at home, and was using a phone. Here's the link:

https://en.community.sonos.com/home-theater-228993/next-generation-playbar-2018-6793521/index1.html#post16205872 doesn't mean it's fake. He might as well say that because he wasn't allowed to release the information. And why bother making such a in depth article about it if it's just fake. Fud.
Not sure what is true but I won't buy a playbar before a new one comes out. I got a play 3 and I'm ready to complete my whole 5.1 setup but won't do it before Sonos get hdmi (dts / atmos)

I hope you get something at least. My experience playing Bladerunner 2047 on 4K blue ray with and without the Playbase is chalk and cheese.

Apparently fake news. See his admission in the 2018 Playbar thread. do you have a link? I've read what he says but find it rather weird now that he is doing everything in his power to get the "news" to be fake. Might as well be real

double bluff perhaps ?!

We won’t know until there is either a confirmation on a release from Sonos this year...or not. As much as I want it to be true doesn’t mean it is true. So I’ll hope for the best, and not be wildly disappointed if it doesn’t pan out.

But in the meantime, I do need to do some research with regards to his claims. I haven’t been following HDMI 2.1 very closely.

The part that makes it fake to me is the fact that their would be so few TVs that would have a function like eARC, and Sonos’ propensity for maximizing revenue by hitting the widest market possible. If Sonos had shown in the past that they were releasing hardware at the cutting edge of technology, I’d deem this more probable.

I hope I’m wrong, but I do want this thread to be a balanced understanding of the potential, and not a “OMG, it’s going to be released next week” thread. So far, it hasn’t. I want others to apply a critical eye to this, much as we have so far.

We won’t know until there is either a confirmation on a release from Sonos this year...or not. As much as I want it to be true doesn’t mean it is true. So I’ll hope for the best, and not be wildly disappointed if it doesn’t pan out.

But in the meantime, I do need to do some research with regards to his claims. I haven’t been following HDMI 2.1 very closely.

The part that makes it fake to me is the fact that their would be so few TVs that would have a function like eARC, and Sonos’ propensity for maximizing revenue by hitting the widest market possible. If Sonos had shown in the past that they were releasing hardware at the cutting edge of technology, I’d deem this more probable.

I hope I’m wrong, but I do want this thread to be a balanced understanding of the potential, and not a “OMG, it’s going to be released next week” thread. So far, it hasn’t. I want others to apply a critical eye to this, much as we have so far. I agree. Nice way to sum it up basicly. If you (or anyone else) find anything that can be somewhere confirmed about the 2.1 EARC and stuff that'd be great. Your point on TV's that they'd require 2.1 EARC technology is a pretty decent argument although the TV industry always improves their technology aswell. Some day it's gotta happen. Not EARC specificly but a HDMI "upgrade". Will it happen soon or rather later? dont know. but if EARC comes to TV's pretty soon, it might be a little clue to the whole picture. I'll see if i can do some research into the EARC feature aswell so see if i can dig something up. Without anything confirmed, i hope this will happen. Because if it doesnt, HEOS might take over this household... or other setups. Which is why i so heavily hope this is true. Rumours like these is what makes me extend my "limit" before i change setup so either way it actually gives Sonos more time to figure their shit out before they end up like Nokia. - Not following technology and ending up bankrupt.

Some of the stuff I've read about HDMI 2.1 seems to indicate that TV manufacturers won't have it in their 2018 models. Maybe some mid-year new models or refreshes, but I'm not expecting it on any first-round 2018 stuff. There is a company with an eARC HDMI 2.1 chipset though (Lattice Semiconductor), so it's not impossible that Sonos could be integrating that if they're working on such a product. If it's really true, it would be awesome for Sonos to be ahead of the curve with something like this... as long as they don't blow it on codec support.

And speaking of codecs, video codecs may not be necessary to license if they don't pass through a video signal. If they're strictly using ARC/eARC, they'd only be dealing with audio data. Of course, losing an HDMI port strictly for audio on a TV with only 2 or 3 of them would be a pretty big loss IMHO.

Between HDMI 2.1 and ATSC 3.0 both being finalized now, I'm looking forward to the day I can buy a new One Connect Mini box for my Samsung TV with both an upgraded over-the-air tuner and an updated HDMI chipset. Here's to hoping it's sooner than later!

My only concern is: do Sonos have enough experience and knowledge to manage HDMI stuff? It means many protocols: hdcp, CEC, arc ...
For sure it is more complex than optical and there are more competitors with more experience there: Denon, Yamaha, Sony, ...