All,
Would you mind listing your TV and mode/year in this thread if you have tested it and confirmed it will pass DD 5.1 to the Playbar and from what source. This will help those of us in the market for a new TV and playbar.
Thanks
MikeB.
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Can anyone confirm whether the 2014 Samsung TVs (particularly the HU9000) pass 5.1 to the PlayBar?
Hi Everyone, after following this thread for a little while I thought my TV investigation may help:
Samsung TV - UE46ES8000U (2012) F/W 2011.1 (26 Sept 2013)
Connections & Settings:
HDMI1 - Sky+ HD:Services->Settings->Sound->Digital Audio Output-HDMI DOLBY D
HDMI2 - PS3: Settings->Sound Settings->Audio Output Settings->HDMI->Manual Dolby Digital 5.1
The Test: For the test I chacked to see what options were available under SPDIF
Samsung TV ->Menu->Sound->Additional Settings->SPDIF Output->Audio Format-> Dolby Digital/PCM
The Results:
Sky+ HD: Both 'Dolby Digital' and 'PCM'
playing DD source: It is hard to find a DD source unless you subscribe to premium channels (which I don't) I ended up using BBC1 HD (note - played program must be in DD)
PS3: Both 'Dolby Digital' and 'PCM'
playing DD source: If the PS3 is only at the menus it will not be outputting DD, a DD source needs to be played (movie or game).
Conclusion: I don't have any equipment that can decode/play DD and therefore can only testify to the option being available under SPDIF on the Samsung TV, however I would be quite confident that if available it would be output.
Regards
Lenny
Samsung TV - UE46ES8000U (2012) F/W 2011.1 (26 Sept 2013)
Connections & Settings:
HDMI1 - Sky+ HD:Services->Settings->Sound->Digital Audio Output-HDMI DOLBY D
HDMI2 - PS3: Settings->Sound Settings->Audio Output Settings->HDMI->Manual Dolby Digital 5.1
The Test: For the test I chacked to see what options were available under SPDIF
Samsung TV ->Menu->Sound->Additional Settings->SPDIF Output->Audio Format-> Dolby Digital/PCM
The Results:
Sky+ HD: Both 'Dolby Digital' and 'PCM'
playing DD source: It is hard to find a DD source unless you subscribe to premium channels (which I don't) I ended up using BBC1 HD (note - played program must be in DD)
PS3: Both 'Dolby Digital' and 'PCM'
playing DD source: If the PS3 is only at the menus it will not be outputting DD, a DD source needs to be played (movie or game).
Conclusion: I don't have any equipment that can decode/play DD and therefore can only testify to the option being available under SPDIF on the Samsung TV, however I would be quite confident that if available it would be output.
Regards
Lenny
Just installed the surrounds (2xPlay1) and had a look. Source was KD Receiver (Kabeldeutschland, now a Vodafone Comp.).
Movie was something on FOX TV (HD) (Crap) - nevertheless - Sonos told me, the signal was 5.1 DD ...
TV is 42PFLG008K/12
Cheers, Rainer
Movie was something on FOX TV (HD) (Crap) - nevertheless - Sonos told me, the signal was 5.1 DD ...
TV is 42PFLG008K/12
Cheers, Rainer
Good news for Sony kdl-46nx713 owners.
Switched my virginmedia TIVO cable TV box to output Dolby Digital and the Sonos app is now reporting Dolby Digital as the input to the Playbar.
So the UK supplied Sony Kdl-46nx713 can pass through Dolby Digital.
Interestingly the menu options on the TV for optical output remain as only either auto or PCM, even with a DD signal. I achieved DD with it set to auto.
Still failing to get my Mac mini and PS3 to do the same.
I'll keep fiddling
Switched my virginmedia TIVO cable TV box to output Dolby Digital and the Sonos app is now reporting Dolby Digital as the input to the Playbar.
So the UK supplied Sony Kdl-46nx713 can pass through Dolby Digital.
Interestingly the menu options on the TV for optical output remain as only either auto or PCM, even with a DD signal. I achieved DD with it set to auto.
Still failing to get my Mac mini and PS3 to do the same.
I'll keep fiddling
Hey all,
My situation is as follows. Digibox (Belgium Telenet) attached through HDMI to TV. PS3 with HDMI to TV. XBMC (rPi) with HDMI to TV.
Only when I attach the optical cable from my PS3 to the sonos I get full dolby digital. On my TV the settings for dolby digital and DTS on the optical out are always greyed out. So I'm basically screwed.
I read that some people have succeeded on passing through the 5.1 on their samsung tv. But I'm completely stuck...
My situation is as follows. Digibox (Belgium Telenet) attached through HDMI to TV. PS3 with HDMI to TV. XBMC (rPi) with HDMI to TV.
Only when I attach the optical cable from my PS3 to the sonos I get full dolby digital. On my TV the settings for dolby digital and DTS on the optical out are always greyed out. So I'm basically screwed.
I read that some people have succeeded on passing through the 5.1 on their samsung tv. But I'm completely stuck...
tboheeren,
First post! Welcome to the forums.
Make sure that your TV's firmware is up to date. I'm not familiar with your model, but some of the firmwares have been updated and now will pass 5.1 streams from an HDMI input.
First post! Welcome to the forums.
Make sure that your TV's firmware is up to date. I'm not familiar with your model, but some of the firmwares have been updated and now will pass 5.1 streams from an HDMI input.
tboheeren,
Make sure that the HDMI outputs are set to output DD (see below), and that you are outputting DD at the time you check the optical out (SPDIF) options.
PS3: Settings->Sound Settings->Audio Output Settings->HDMI->Manual Dolby Digital 5.1
Note - playing DD source: If the PS3 is only at the menus it will not be outputting DD, a DD source needs to be playing (movie or game).
RaspberryPi (RasBMC): SYSTEM->Settings->System->Audio output
Audio output device: HDMI, Number of channels: 5.1, Enable passthrough.
Note - Same as above for Raspi
See my last post #203 for my test results & settings, good luck
Regards
Lenny
Make sure that the HDMI outputs are set to output DD (see below), and that you are outputting DD at the time you check the optical out (SPDIF) options.
PS3: Settings->Sound Settings->Audio Output Settings->HDMI->Manual Dolby Digital 5.1
Note - playing DD source: If the PS3 is only at the menus it will not be outputting DD, a DD source needs to be playing (movie or game).
RaspberryPi (RasBMC): SYSTEM->Settings->System->Audio output
Audio output device: HDMI, Number of channels: 5.1, Enable passthrough.
Note - Same as above for Raspi
See my last post #203 for my test results & settings, good luck
Regards
Lenny
I'm sorry if this has been mentioned already but this is what I wanted to ask about! In my Sonos Settings it says the input is STEREO. Is this because my TV can only output Stereo, or because it has picked up I only have a Playbar + Sub and no additional speakers?
I'd like to know for two reasons. Firstly if it should say Dolby 5.1, then I may as well not invest in rear speakers until my TV is due to be replaced. Also if it should say Dolby 5.1, does this effect the sound quality of the playbar+sub being only in stereo?
Thanks in advance! I'll keep reading these forums but I'm new and thought it would be quicker ot ask the experts. My TV is a 60PS40FD-AA.
Has anyone managed to get 5.1 from KDL-40EX403 optical out from a hdmi input?
Also the PS42Q97HD (old samsung)
In reply to previous posts:
- The firmware of my tv is indeed on its latest firmware version. Still no passthrough
- RaspberryPi is well configured (5.1 and enable passthrough).
- The options under sound, additional settings, optical are only PCM or DTSNeo. The others (DD, DTS) are always grayed out.
Conclusion: Samsung 2013 models will not enable 5.1 passthrough even though incoming signal (HDMI) is 5.1. Everything is converted to 2.0 PCM....
- The firmware of my tv is indeed on its latest firmware version. Still no passthrough
- RaspberryPi is well configured (5.1 and enable passthrough).
- The options under sound, additional settings, optical are only PCM or DTSNeo. The others (DD, DTS) are always grayed out.
Conclusion: Samsung 2013 models will not enable 5.1 passthrough even though incoming signal (HDMI) is 5.1. Everything is converted to 2.0 PCM....
I think you've just sealed the deal for me! I've been undecided between a Sony and Samsung tv... It's definitely not going to be samsung now!
Having just set up my new Samsung Tv
UE55HU8500 with the Playbar, I can confirm that the TV only passes PCM.
I have installed a CYP switch and run Toslink cables from Sky Box and Play Station to that and then to the Playbar.
Now get Dolby Digital from Sky Box and 5.1 from Play Station.
Switch is remote control, I am now a happy Sonos user.
UE55HU8500 with the Playbar, I can confirm that the TV only passes PCM.
I have installed a CYP switch and run Toslink cables from Sky Box and Play Station to that and then to the Playbar.
Now get Dolby Digital from Sky Box and 5.1 from Play Station.
Switch is remote control, I am now a happy Sonos user.
Can anyone confirm whether the new 2014 Sony 4K TVs (particularly the X8500B series) pass 5.1 through its optical out to the PlayBar?
I have to admit, I'm a little confused. We are moving and thinking about our next configuration. I want to connect a Playbar to a Samsung UN75F6300AF and get 5.1 surround sound out of it. The manual on the Samsung syays the digital output supports 5.1 (though I've read some Samsungs do not). Assuming the broadcast is surround sound 5.1, will the TV pass the 5.1 signal using the digital output and then will the Playbar (and attached pair of Play 3s) play in surround sound?
Thanks in advance.
Thanks in advance.
I have to admit, I'm a little confused+1
We are looking at getting a new TV, nothing special just 40" thin (very thin) black surround and the ability to work (fully) with SoundBar in 5.1 mode. Albeit with the purchase of a Samsung DVD player to replace our 2 month old Panasonic that does not converter to 5.1 from DTS.
I saw this thread and thought there might be a definitive list of TV model numbers, but after wading through everything I seem to be no nearer a solution.
Does Sonos publish a list of recommended "compatible" TVs anywhere?? If not why not?
I am a great fan of Sonos since 2007, but they choose to make life difficult (with their chose of input options) so the least they could do is help out with a list of TVs that work!
TJRL,
I don't think that it is possible to create a truly comprehensive or accurate list of TV's that pass through 5.1. One would need to test the universe of TV's regularly, but even daily testing might not result in an accurate list. Since most of the TV's in question offer online updates, an update could change the processing results for a given model in a few minutes. Plus, there could be running engineering updates for a model that change the situation. For these units the compatibility list information might not apply to dealer inventory manufactured prior to or after the (likely unknown) engineering change date. Dealers and manufacturers would be reluctant to share this information with customers, fearing that they might be stuck with unsellable inventory.
Then there is the question of liability for database errors. And, damage claims could originate from customers who purchased model XYZ TV because it was listed as compatible, but was not -- or from manufacturers claiming that the listing error resulted in lost sales for their model ZYX.
And the situation can become very weird. Recently, I was struggling with a set that displayed an error message when its speakers were turned OFF and an IR Volume command was received. This is annoying and, while it is often relatively easy to train PLAYBAR to use a different set of commands, using the TV's native remote can then become more difficult. Effectively, one is trading one annoyance for another. By accident, I discovered that the TV's speakers could be turned OFF after climbing down two different menu trees. If I used tree 'A' to turn the speakers ON, then used tree 'B' to turn them OFF, the error message was suppressed. I am dreading the next TV firmware update ... .
I don't think that it is possible to create a truly comprehensive or accurate list of TV's that pass through 5.1. One would need to test the universe of TV's regularly, but even daily testing might not result in an accurate list. Since most of the TV's in question offer online updates, an update could change the processing results for a given model in a few minutes. Plus, there could be running engineering updates for a model that change the situation. For these units the compatibility list information might not apply to dealer inventory manufactured prior to or after the (likely unknown) engineering change date. Dealers and manufacturers would be reluctant to share this information with customers, fearing that they might be stuck with unsellable inventory.
Then there is the question of liability for database errors. And, damage claims could originate from customers who purchased model XYZ TV because it was listed as compatible, but was not -- or from manufacturers claiming that the listing error resulted in lost sales for their model ZYX.
And the situation can become very weird. Recently, I was struggling with a set that displayed an error message when its speakers were turned OFF and an IR Volume command was received. This is annoying and, while it is often relatively easy to train PLAYBAR to use a different set of commands, using the TV's native remote can then become more difficult. Effectively, one is trading one annoyance for another. By accident, I discovered that the TV's speakers could be turned OFF after climbing down two different menu trees. If I used tree 'A' to turn the speakers ON, then used tree 'B' to turn them OFF, the error message was suppressed. I am dreading the next TV firmware update ... .
Hi Buzz,
I guess my asking for a definitive list of TVs was a bit tongue in check and I was just venting some frustration at how hard Sonos have made it to get the most out of the PlayBar's capabilities!:rolleyes:
I guess my asking for a definitive list of TVs was a bit tongue in check and I was just venting some frustration at how hard Sonos have made it to get the most out of the PlayBar's capabilities!:rolleyes:
Hello
I have the Samsung UE60F6300 just bought 2 months ago.
Firmware, the latest: 1120
When I connect the HDMI from my sat box to the TV directly the menu of Dolby Digital is not greyed out, so I select it and I see the picture OK, but the optical out then I send it to a reciever (to check if its indeed sending Dolby Digital) and there is no sound coming out from the TV...
Anything I am doing wrong. It seems that it CAN pass the signal to the Digital out (at least from the menu) but then I cant get any audio out...
Any help? Thanks
I have the Samsung UE60F6300 just bought 2 months ago.
Firmware, the latest: 1120
When I connect the HDMI from my sat box to the TV directly the menu of Dolby Digital is not greyed out, so I select it and I see the picture OK, but the optical out then I send it to a reciever (to check if its indeed sending Dolby Digital) and there is no sound coming out from the TV...
Anything I am doing wrong. It seems that it CAN pass the signal to the Digital out (at least from the menu) but then I cant get any audio out...
Any help? Thanks
Hi all, I'm considering purchasing a Samsung H6400 series TV (a 55" in particular). Does anyone have any experience with this TV and a Playbar? Can anyone confirm that this TV will pass 5.1 audio from it's connected devices (ie. blueray player, sat box etc.) to the Playbar?
Thanks.
Thanks.
Sony KDL46ex715 will not pass!
Thanks.
Hi jlogo, I contacted Samsung today to know if their H6400 series TVs support 5.1 through the Digital Audio Out output. Their email reply (translated from French):
[indent]When sound comes out directly from the TV, the "Digital Audio Out" output supports Dolby Digital 5.1.
When you use an HDMI device and wish to use the "Digital Audio Out" output from your TV, sound will only be capable of supportig Dolby Surround and won't support Dolby 5.1.
- Example 1: USB stick plugged in the TV: Digital Audio Out -> Dolby 5.1 (for content supporting 5.1)
- Example 2: Decoder plugged with HDMI: Digital Audio Out -> Dolby Surround (stereo)
[/indent]
Does anyone tested the Sony KD-**X8505 TVs?
or any other current 4k TVs e.g. from Samsung??
Got an 65x8505 today and yes it can synd out multichannel to the optical port. Both from internal apps and from an input hdmi port (in my case from an HTPC)
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