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LG C9 + Arc + UB820 / Multichannel PCM for DTS Blu-Ray discs

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November 17, 2020
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I’m running an LG C9 with a Panasonic UB820 Blu-ray player, Sonos Arc + Sub gen 3 + One SL surrounds. The lack of DTS support on the Arc has been frustrating for non Dolby encoded Blu-ray discs, so I have been eagerly awaiting the multichannel PCM update.

It’s finally arrived (thanks, Sonos!) and I tried playing a DTS encoded Blu-ray and… no dice. Still stereo PCM 2.0. Has anyone running a similar set-up managed to get 5.1 PCM output from the Arc?

The C9 supports eARC and multichannel PCM, I’m using 48gbps HDMI cables that support up to 8k60Hz, all of the devices are up to date, I have the C9 set to PCM with eArc enabled, DTS output set to PCM on the UB820… I’m really at a loss here. Any ideas or suggested settings?

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zad

Lyricist III

Fake surround is OK, but it's not really the experience that I was expecting from this system. I'm just waiting to get my hands on a Xbox One X, and the Panasonic will go up for sale. It's a fine player but it doesn't work with my system. And nobody seems to be listening at customer support, we haven't seen a firmware upgrade in 2 years, I don't suspect we'll ever see one.

Hmm i have a Xbox series X and UB820. I certainly wouldn’t be jumping ship to play my movies on the xbox. Have you looked at any of the comparison videos from the likes of John Archer? The UB820 is still one of the best 4K players on the market and there is a considerable difference in image quality over something like an xbox/PS5.

The XSX also can’t and unlikely will be able to play dolby vision from 4K disks for some reason. Which is strange considering that they are moving towards dolby vision being used in games.

Yeah I'm aware of the visual downgrade, but I'm willing to accept that for proper surround. I've got a pretty massive blu ray collection (nearly 1500 disc's) and I'd like to be able to take advantage of the surround track. I wasn't aware of the lack of dolby vision, but I've really only got a few 4k dolby vision disc's anyways. The Xbox will certainly be a bandaid until something comes along that checks off all the buttons. Or Sonos starts to support DTS... Whatever comes first.

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Robboadam

Trending Lyricist I

Fake surround is OK, but it's not really the experience that I was expecting from this system. I'm just waiting to get my hands on a Xbox One X, and the Panasonic will go up for sale. It's a fine player but it doesn't work with my system. And nobody seems to be listening at customer support, we haven't seen a firmware upgrade in 2 years, I don't suspect we'll ever see one.

Hmm i have a Xbox series X and UB820. I certainly wouldn’t be jumping ship to play my movies on the xbox. Have you looked at any of the comparison videos from the likes of John Archer? The UB820 is still one of the best 4K players on the market and there is a considerable difference in image quality over something like an xbox/PS5.

The XSX also can’t and unlikely will be able to play dolby vision from 4K disks for some reason. Which is strange considering that they are moving towards dolby vision being used in games.

Yeah I'm aware of the visual downgrade, but I'm willing to accept that for proper surround. I've got a pretty massive blu ray collection (nearly 1500 disc's) and I'd like to be able to take advantage of the surround track. I wasn't aware of the lack of dolby vision, but I've really only got a few 4k dolby vision disc's anyways. The Xbox will certainly be a bandaid until something comes along that checks off all the buttons. Or Sonos starts to support DTS... Whatever comes first.

But why can’t you just use the HDFury? That way you get the best of both worlds

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zad

Lyricist III

Fake surround is OK, but it's not really the experience that I was expecting from this system. I'm just waiting to get my hands on a Xbox One X, and the Panasonic will go up for sale. It's a fine player but it doesn't work with my system. And nobody seems to be listening at customer support, we haven't seen a firmware upgrade in 2 years, I don't suspect we'll ever see one.

Hmm i have a Xbox series X and UB820. I certainly wouldn’t be jumping ship to play my movies on the xbox. Have you looked at any of the comparison videos from the likes of John Archer? The UB820 is still one of the best 4K players on the market and there is a considerable difference in image quality over something like an xbox/PS5.

The XSX also can’t and unlikely will be able to play dolby vision from 4K disks for some reason. Which is strange considering that they are moving towards dolby vision being used in games.

Yeah I'm aware of the visual downgrade, but I'm willing to accept that for proper surround. I've got a pretty massive blu ray collection (nearly 1500 disc's) and I'd like to be able to take advantage of the surround track. I wasn't aware of the lack of dolby vision, but I've really only got a few 4k dolby vision disc's anyways. The Xbox will certainly be a bandaid until something comes along that checks off all the buttons. Or Sonos starts to support DTS... Whatever comes first.

But why can’t you just use the HDFury? That way you get the best of both worlds

I've considered it. I'd like to avoid cable clutter, I run a very minimal set up and absolutely hate the sight if wires. Plus for the money I'd rather put it towards a device I'd get more than a singular use out of like the Xbox.

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darkonex

Trending Lyricist I

I've considered it. I'd like to avoid cable clutter, I run a very minimal set up and absolutely hate the sight if wires. Plus for the money I'd rather put it towards a device I'd get more than a singular use out of like the Xbox.

Ya I briefly had the Arcana and it caused CEC issues and sound issues with my Shield, which I may have been able to work out possibly but even more infuriating was how the ports were setup so it was messy af to cable up and hard to place somewhere good where you could see the LCD but not look like absolute crap. Was such a waste of time/money, ended up refunding it but they had to take out shipping cost so lost like $50 something out of the whole ordeal but I’d rather not kept the thing.

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zad

Lyricist III

I was looking into EDID emulators, and I was wondering if anybody had any experience with them.

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Eddydess72001

Lyricist I

Anyone in here owns the new Samsung QN90A tv and The panasonic ub820? Still having the same issues with getting PCM 2.0 instead of LPCM when connecting the player (with DTS set to PCM) and soundbar directly to the TV?

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iBoyley

Trending Lyricist I

I was looking into EDID emulators, and I was wondering if anybody had any experience with them.

I am curious about this too. Somebody over on AV forums just posted this:

“Download CRU : Custom Resolution Utility (CRU)
1.5.1 on top of OP

Extract and open CRU.exe

on the drop down list at the top, select the TV with soundbar plugged in (it should be marked as active)

on "extension block" slots there should be a CTA-861 - 3 detailed resolutions - 3 data blocks or something like that - select it and click edit

now select audio format and click edit

select LPCM > edit and check all sample rates and channels

click OK > OK > Ok

Reboot
Now PC show 5.1/7.1 chanels avaliable through HDMI and all is working great. I think it's EDID probblem with LG CX.”

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Scotty01

Lyricist II

I was looking into EDID emulators, and I was wondering if anybody had any experience with them.

I am curious about this too. Somebody over on AV forums just posted this:

“Download CRU : Custom Resolution Utility (CRU)
1.5.1 on top of OP

Extract and open CRU.exe

on the drop down list at the top, select the TV with soundbar plugged in (it should be marked as active)

on "extension block" slots there should be a CTA-861 - 3 detailed resolutions - 3 data blocks or something like that - select it and click edit

now select audio format and click edit

select LPCM > edit and check all sample rates and channels

click OK > OK > Ok

Reboot
Now PC show 5.1/7.1 chanels avaliable through HDMI and all is working great. I think it's EDID probblem with LG CX.”

So you can now get 5.1 and 7.1 through the pc or the Panasonic uhd player ?

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Chetiya

Lyricist III

Hi All, anyone in here who got an hdfury arcana with the LG cx / ub820 / Sonos arc combo experiencing issues with cec/earc breaking when the arcana is plugged in after the latest LG update a few weeks ago? Whenever it is plugged in now the connection between the tv and the Sonos gets messed up, no cec volume control and no earc support. It’s infuriating!

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Hebassaurus

Lyricist III

@Laird M Malamed Thank you for breaking your methodologies down with the DR HDMI 4K!

Thank you to everyone else who has contributed in this thread as well.

I bought a DR HDMI 4K for the same reason as you all. I was able to follow your path @Laird M Malamed and, indeed, did get it into Multichannel PCM 7.1 from a DTS-HD MA 5.1 track and a DTS:X track (The 7.1 output seems to be all it outputs, but not sure why just yet. My Nintendo Switch also outputs as 7.1 even though it’s only 5.1 capable). The center channel appears to be a bit quiet in comparison to the Dolby Digital 5.1 tracks on the same UHD disc and unsure why...will continue to dig into that.

My main issue is that, while I’m able to get Dolby Vision initially, it seems to switch off shortly after the disc starts playing, as the G1 settings won’t stay in DolbyVision Select mode. Have you seen anything like that? I intend to continue playing around with this as I’m dying to watch some of these movies with surround...but also in Dolby Vision.

My setup for reference:

LG G1 65”

Panasonic UB9000

Sonos Arc

Sonos Sub (Gen 3)

Sonos One x2 (rears)

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