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Contributor I
July 2, 2019
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Epson 4010 4k projector with Sonos Beam

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I've a Epson 4010 4k projector and I would like to connect that to Sonos soundbar via using "Sonos - Female-To-Male Audio Adapter". Would this work? If not, do I need to get a HDMI switch box? what is the most easiest way to connect soundbar with epson 4010 projector?
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    AjTrek1
    AjTrek1Answer
    July 2, 2019
    Hi vzzai

    Unfortunately, there are no audio out ports on the Epson 4010 4k that I can see (click the link: https://www.crutchfield.com/p_278HC4010/Epson-Home-Cinema-4010.html?awcr=77446913330532&awdv=c&awkw=epson+4010+review&awmt=p&awnw=o&awat=&awug=91175

    The "trigger-out" is used to trigger a screen to drop down or other compatible component to start.

    Your best solution is to invest in a HDMI video/audio extractor (click the link below for an example). The connections would be:

    1. Source HDMI-Out to HDMI-In port of extractor
    2. HDMI-Out port of extractor to HDMI-In of Projector
    3. Optical-Out port of extractor to Sonos Playbar
    https://www.amazon.com/iArkPower-Optical-Extractor-Splitter-Supports/dp/B01K7BZ1XC/ref=sr_1_4?crid=1QRAHB3DBE70W&keywords=hdmi+arc+input+hdmi+out+optical&qid=1562082981&s=gateway&sprefix=hdmi%2Fopi%2Caps%2C148&sr=8-4

    Let us know how things sort out. Cheers!
    Together Everyone Achieves More = T.E.A.M.

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    Airgetlam
    July 2, 2019
    What kind of audio connections are on that projector? Optical? HDMI-ARC? Headphone jack?
    Bruce
    vzzaiAuthor
    Contributor I
    July 2, 2019
    Thank you, Bruce. This is what it has. I think USB Type A (for optical HDMI cable) and Trigger out may the ones that I can rely upon. Am I right?

    AjTrek1
    AjTrek1Answer
    July 2, 2019
    Hi vzzai

    Unfortunately, there are no audio out ports on the Epson 4010 4k that I can see (click the link: https://www.crutchfield.com/p_278HC4010/Epson-Home-Cinema-4010.html?awcr=77446913330532&awdv=c&awkw=epson+4010+review&awmt=p&awnw=o&awat=&awug=91175

    The "trigger-out" is used to trigger a screen to drop down or other compatible component to start.

    Your best solution is to invest in a HDMI video/audio extractor (click the link below for an example). The connections would be:

    1. Source HDMI-Out to HDMI-In port of extractor
    2. HDMI-Out port of extractor to HDMI-In of Projector
    3. Optical-Out port of extractor to Sonos Playbar
    https://www.amazon.com/iArkPower-Optical-Extractor-Splitter-Supports/dp/B01K7BZ1XC/ref=sr_1_4?crid=1QRAHB3DBE70W&keywords=hdmi+arc+input+hdmi+out+optical&qid=1562082981&s=gateway&sprefix=hdmi%2Fopi%2Caps%2C148&sr=8-4

    Let us know how things sort out. Cheers!
    Together Everyone Achieves More = T.E.A.M.
    vzzaiAuthor
    Contributor I
    July 2, 2019
    Thank you so much for a detailed writeup.

    Request a suggestion: I've a small room that I'm setting up my home theatre. I'm thinking of either buying a Sonos Soundbar with Sonos play 1 speakers OR Just a Sonos Playbar. Any suggestions on which one would work best for a home theatre setup.
    Airgetlam
    July 2, 2019
    For any "home theater", I'd always suggest adding the surround speakers.

    Not sure what a Sonos "soundbar" is...there's three different models. The Beam, PLAYBASE, and PLAYBAR.

    The Beam is designed for smaller rooms. Not sure what Sonos means by that adjective smaller, but it certainly isn't as wide as the PLAYBAR and PLAYBASE, which would give a wider sound field.

    The PLAYBASE is designed to sit underneath a TV, and has a smallish subwoofer built inside it.

    The PLAYBAR is the oldest design of all three, but is my personal favorite, due to the widest sound field it has. I am, however, looking forward to a refresh from Sonos at some point, so that it will include many of the newer tech features of the Beam.

    The benefit of a Sonos system is that you can start off with just the soundbar, whichever of the three you want, and then later on, when finances meet the need, you can pick up a pair of speakers to act as surrounds, and then later you can get the SUB to support that true "movie" experience.
    Bruce
    AjTrek1
    July 2, 2019
    Request a suggestion: I've a small room that I'm setting up my home theatre. I'm thinking of either buying a Sonos Soundbar with Sonos play 1 speakers OR Just a Sonos Playbar. Any suggestions on which one would work best for a home theatre setup.

    FYI, I'll assume that when you use the term Sonos Soundbar you are actually meaning a Sonos Playbar. The terms often get used interchangeably with the latter being the correct one.

    To your question regarding room size:

    Before the introduction of the Sonos Beam there were no options relative to size; as the Playbar and Playbase produced more or less identical sound. To put size into perspective the Sonos Beam is recommended for a room the size of a Bedroom or just slightly larger. The Playbar and Playbase are recommend for a full size living room or theater room. However, some have used the Beam in full size room applications albeit with surrounds and Sub. Primarily the Sub is used to handle the low-end which IMO makes dialogue clearer when used with a Beam.

    Although the Playbar will fill a room large or small; if in a small space you need not play it loud. In fact if you use an iOS device it can be tuned via TruePlay; in the Sonos app, to accommodate just about any size room (i.e. not make it overpowering in a small space).

    The use of surrounds with a Playbar, Playbase or Beam are only present acoustically when the source material has a surround track. So when watching broadcast TV via cable or OTA the surrounds will most likely be silent or only produce a very subtle sound. IMO surrounds always add to the movie experience in any size room. Here again Trueplay will tune all speakers to the room size including the Sonos Sub when used as a complete DD5.1 HT setup.

    One more point about the surrounds...they can be set to automictically switch over to FULL on speakers when playing music. After the music stops they alternately switch back to surround mode.

    FYI, here are your levels of DD sound:
    1. Playbar or Playbase or Beam = DD3.0
    2. Playbar or Playbase or Beam with sub = DD3.1
    3. Playbar or Playbase or Beam with surrounds = DD5.0
    4. Playbar or Playbase or Beam with surrounds and sub = DD5.1
    I hope this helps. Cheers!
    Together Everyone Achieves More = T.E.A.M.
    vzzaiAuthor
    Contributor I
    July 2, 2019
    Thank you all so much for your feedback.
    vzzaiAuthor
    Contributor I
    July 16, 2019
    Thank you all for your support.

    I've set my hometheater with Epson 4010 4k projector, Sonos Beam and HDMI video/audio extractor (HDCP 2.2). However, when I play 4k content the Sonos Beam speaker does not work. I think that the issue could be for the HDMI cable that I've used! (link below). Does someone know if there is a fix for this?

    https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00DI8929Q/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o04_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

    Thank you,
    Vj
    Airgetlam
    July 17, 2019
    What makes you think it is the HDMI cable?

    And, I guess, we need more information as to how you’ve got this set up.

    What should be be happening is that you have the Apple TV connected to the HDMI switch / extractor, with an HDMI cable then going to the projector. An optical cable would then be connected to the HDMI switch’s audio output port, and go to the adaptor that connects to the Beam.

    You would then have to go in to the audio settings on the Apple TV and turn on “Change Format” and restrict it to Dolby Digital .1, rather than any other options. Both settings are under Video and Audio, Audio Format, below the Audio section on the screen.
    Bruce
    vzzaiAuthor
    Contributor I
    July 20, 2019
    You are right. it does not look like a cable issue. This is my setup.

    Projector > HDMI cable > HDMI Switch with Roku > Audio out > Sonos Beam.

    Roku has Audio Mode set to Dolby Digital Plus, DTS. Everything works fine until I play 4k UHD content and the audio doesn't come out. Any help is highly appreciated.