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Evander
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September 2, 2015

DTS, Dolby 5.1 on Playbar, 2015 edition!

Hi all

I am writing this post in the hope it may help those struggling with the above issue(s). The first topic which appears on this in Google is the post at https://en.community.sonos.com/home-theater-228993/solving-the-51-dts-issues-with-the-playbar-34523, which is now out of date. For my part I wanted to set out what I did to "resolve" this issue (or more accurately, work around it).

Since the above post, Sonos have written a few useful notes. The most helpful is: https://sonos.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/1945/~/maximizing-playbar-sound-from-your-television.

A further note deals with the XBOX work around (https://sonos.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/2490/session/L2F2LzEvdGltZS8xNDQxMjA4NzE0L3NpZC9JdER6cXR2bQ%3D%3D) and another provides the details for PS4 (https://sonos.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/3075/related/1).

The Issue

Playbar with 2 Play:1s and a Sub is a 5.1 Surround system. However, because the Playbar connects through a Digitial Out/Toslink/SPDIF, its limited bandwidth prevents it from EVER being compatible with DTS-HD, Dolby True-HD or any other lossless/HD audio. However, it is possible to play Dolby 5.1 providing your TV can output a Dolby Digital signal through the Digital Out.

People realise that they are only listening to Stereo when they go to About My Sonos System and realise that the AUDIO IN listed under PlayBar is STEREO. When its 5.1 it will say Dolby Digital 5.1, or when Dolby Digital 2.0, exactly that.

DTS

DTS will have to be re-coded as Dolby Digital to be played by the PlayBar, else it will be silent (displaying "Audio not supported"). There is no way of playing DTS itself.

Work arounds: My experience

I read the above post and went off to buy a switch (although, this one in the UK http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00DZIXIMQ?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00, called Portta 4x1 HDMI Switcher with Toslink and Digital Coaxial Port 3D Splitter with Remote and AC Adapter/ 3D 1080P). When I connected my BD-Player to this by HDMI, with my STB and TV, and connected the switch to the Playbar, it started to play 5.1. Result. However, this is a poor solution as you have to manually switch between inputs, have another remote, cannot use a magic remote or the input management system on the TV etc.

I thought about buying an XBOX (which my research indicted is the better media system when compared to PS4) it (with PS4) decodes DTS to DD 5.1 "on the fly.

I also thought about buying the OPPO BDP-103 for a whopping £400 as suggested by the post.

However, there are literally a handful of BD Players which also re-code DTS to DD (please see SONOS's own post). I purchased the Samsung BD-H6500 for a very reasonable sum and can now play DTS easily on the Playbar (obviously, recoded to DD5.1).

I have set my system up as follows. My LG 55EC930V is connected to the Playbar. This TV outputs Dolby Digital (and I think, even Dolby Digital Plus) via Digital Out. I have then connected my Virgin Media STB to the TV via HDMI (STB set to output Dolby Digital Audio) and the BD Player via HDMI, which is set to output recoded DTS.

My issue was that my wired Home Cinema system (Panasonic SC-BTT270) would not output DD as it only had an Optical In, so I had to buy a new player. I highly recommend the one I bought, it plays great.

Also, my Playbar also plays 5.1 from Netflix, Amazon Prime video and Live TV (though, not Youtube for some reason).

Other work arounds

You can also work around the DTS issue by connecting the Playbar to an XBox or PS4, or at worst, a switch.

I hope this helps!!! 🙂
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Lyricist III
December 6, 2016
Add another frustrated voice to the list of people annoyed with the lack of DTS support. I have the Samsung UE55F8000S, which I paid nearly £2000 for a couple of years back. It's a fantastic TV but as expected, the built in speaker is a bit lacking so recently I took the plunge and bought the Playbar and 2 x Play 1's for a surround sound setup (glad I haven't splurged on the sub yet!!)

With my TV, at least when the source is HDMI, it can only send either stereo or DTS NEO 2.5. As has been well covered here, stereo is barely any better than the built in speaker, and DTS.....well, we're all painfully aware.

If I use one of the native apps on the TV (i.e. Netflix) I can get it to send Doly Digital but 80% of the TV I watch is through my Sky box which (you guessed it) is connected via HDMI. Currently, I've connected the optical cable directly to my Sky box (which does send DD) but it's a pain in the backside having to re-connect it to the TV when I want to use either Netflix, YouTube or Amazon Prime directly on the TV.

Frankly for a surround system that when you include the sub, costs nearly £1500 I would expect Sonos to support pretty much all the common audio technologies in use, especially one used by one of the (if not the biggest?) TV vendor, Samsung.

Come on Sonos, get this sorted please
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Stuart_W
World-Class Superstar
December 6, 2016
Add another frustrated voice to the list of people annoyed with the lack of DTS support. I have the Samsung UE55F8000S, which I paid nearly £2000 for a couple of years back. It's a fantastic TV but as expected, the built in speaker is a bit lacking so recently I took the plunge and bought the Playbar and 2 x Play 1's for a surround sound setup (glad I haven't splurged on the sub yet!!)

With my TV, at least when the source is HDMI, it can only send either stereo or DTS NEO 2.5. As has been well covered here, stereo is barely any better than the built in speaker, and DTS.....well, we're all painfully aware.

If I use one of the native apps on the TV (i.e. Netflix) I can get it to send Doly Digital but 80% of the TV I watch is through my Sky box which (you guessed it) is connected via HDMI. Currently, I've connected the optical cable directly to my Sky box (which does send DD) but it's a pain in the backside having to re-connect it to the TV when I want to use either Netflix, YouTube or Amazon Prime directly on the TV.

Frankly for a surround system that when you include the sub, costs nearly £1500 I would expect Sonos to support pretty much all the common audio technologies in use, especially one used by one of the (if not the biggest?) TV vendor, Samsung.

Come on Sonos, get this sorted please


What proportion of programmes via Sky are DTS or Dolby Digital +?

I'm guessing somewhere between 0% and 0%
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Lyricist III
December 6, 2016


What proportion of programmes via Sky are DTS or Dolby Digital +?

I'm guessing somewhere between 0% and 0%


Quite a few of the Sky HD channels send Dolby 5.1 (I keep checking on the Sonos > About My Sonos > Playbar section)
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Stuart_W
World-Class Superstar
December 6, 2016


What proportion of programmes via Sky are DTS or Dolby Digital +?

I'm guessing somewhere between 0% and 0%


Quite a few of the Sky HD channels send Dolby 5.1 (I keep checking on the Sonos > About My Sonos > Playbar section)


And the Playbar WILL play DD 5.1 brilliantly.
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Arc + Sub (Gen 1) + 2 x Play 1/ Stereo Play 3s/ Era 100 Stereo in Kitchen, One Stereo in Bedroom, Play 1 stereo pair in Study, Play 1in Bathroom, Sonos Move 2
Lyricist III
December 6, 2016


What proportion of programmes via Sky are DTS or Dolby Digital +?

I'm guessing somewhere between 0% and 0%


Quite a few of the Sky HD channels send Dolby 5.1 (I keep checking on the Sonos > About My Sonos > Playbar section)


And the Playbar WILL play DD 5.1 brilliantly.


Is there something you wish to get off your chest sweetheart?
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Stuart_W
World-Class Superstar
December 6, 2016


What proportion of programmes via Sky are DTS or Dolby Digital +?

I'm guessing somewhere between 0% and 0%


Quite a few of the Sky HD channels send Dolby 5.1 (I keep checking on the Sonos > About My Sonos > Playbar section)


And the Playbar WILL play DD 5.1 brilliantly.


Is there something you wish to get off your chest sweetheart?


You were/are complaining that that the Playbar won't decode DTS, you confirmed your TV will pass DTS and Stereo and you stated the majority of your video source is SKY thereby heavily implying SKY outputs audio in DTS (else why would you be bothered?).

I was just pointing out that SKY does not, in fact, broadcast a DTS audio signal. Your problem is your TV mangles the DD5.1 signal it receives into stereo.
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Lyricist III
December 6, 2016


You were/are complaining that that the Playbar won't decode DTS, you confirmed your TV will pass DTS and Stereo and you stated the majority of your video source is SKY thereby heavily implying SKY outputs audio in DTS (else why would you be bothered?).



Sky outputs audio in DD5.1 (at least on a lot of the main HD channels) therefore if I connect my Playbar to my Sky box directly I can see that my Sonos setup is receiving 5.1

My TV does NOT pass DD5.1 from anything that is connected to it directly via HDMI (i.e. my Sky box), it will only pass stereo or DTS Neo (the DD option is greyed out).

If Sonos supported DTS I could plug my TV directly into my Playbar
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Stuart_W
World-Class Superstar
December 6, 2016


You were/are complaining that that the Playbar won't decode DTS, you confirmed your TV will pass DTS and Stereo and you stated the majority of your video source is SKY thereby heavily implying SKY outputs audio in DTS (else why would you be bothered?).



Sky outputs audio in DD5.1 (at least on a lot of the main HD channels) therefore if I connect my Playbar to my Sky box directly I can see that my Sonos setup is receiving 5.1

My TV does NOT pass DD5.1 from anything that is connected to it directly via HDMI (i.e. my Sky box), it will only pass stereo or DTS Neo (the DD option is greyed out).

If Sonos supported DTS I could plug my TV directly into my Playbar


I'd be amazed if your TV output DTS if it received DD5.1 so how would that help?
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Lyricist I
January 23, 2017
I'm hoping someone will read this. I am trying to make sense of the OP but somehow I can't.
I have the same TV and for me, it doesn't pass through any DD 5.1 from connected HDMI sources, no matter what I do.

1. What did OP do to make it work for him?
2. Why does he talk about buying an optical switch to get 5.1 from all sources including PS4 etc, then suddenly the solution is to just buy a different model BluRay player?
3. Why does he have an audio receiver and how is that connected to the playbar?
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Lyricist I
February 24, 2017
I have a Samsung 55ku6500 TV which according to the manual should pass 5.1Dd from my sky box. However I can only get 2.0. When I connect directly from my sky box I do get 5.1 so it's not an issue with the sky box. Can anyone with a similar TV confirm that it does indeed pass 5.1 from their external source and if so what am I doing wrong as it's driving me bananas?
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