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Avid Contributor I
September 27, 2022
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Direct connection between Sonos Arc and Sub Gen 3?

I recently bought Sonos Arc + Sub Gen 3. I was wondering if there is a way Sonos Arc can connect directly with Sub Gen 3 (without being depedent on WiFi). Similar to how Samsung Q950A or JBL Bar 9.1 does.

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ratty
rattyAnswer
September 28, 2022

If the question is “what if the router dies?” then it’s possible that the Arc+Sub will continue to operate for TV audio only, at least for a while, using their existing IP addresses.

When the IP leases expire the situation could become unpredictable. The units may then operate in AutoIP/APIPA mode, but you’d be in completely unsupported territory.

You can of course try this for yourself by powering off your router.

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ratty
rattyAnswer
September 28, 2022

If the question is “what if the router dies?” then it’s possible that the Arc+Sub will continue to operate for TV audio only, at least for a while, using their existing IP addresses.

When the IP leases expire the situation could become unpredictable. The units may then operate in AutoIP/APIPA mode, but you’d be in completely unsupported territory.

You can of course try this for yourself by powering off your router.

Avid Contributor I
September 28, 2022

“what if the router dies?” 

 

may be this is the question I should have started with :) Thanks for that. Tomorrow, I am going to try turning the router off and see what happens. I already tried this with Arc (standalone) and it worked well as far as playing audio from the TV is concerned. Will try with Arc+Sub combination.

ratty
September 28, 2022

The router would typically lease IP addresses for 24 hours. After 12 hours therefore the units would attempt to renew the lease.

You’d probably need to leave the router off for 24+ hours to see what really happens between the Arc and Sub.

Avid Contributor I
September 28, 2022

Thanks for that tip

Avid Contributor I
October 1, 2022

@ratty had a little bit of luck. It’s possible to use Arc ‘out-of-box’. Just unbox it, power it on, connect to the TV with eArc and it’s good to go. No need for the S2 app, local network, or internet. TV will control the volume via eArc. of course, connecting Sub will not be possible. Will move this to a separate thread. 

ratty
October 1, 2022

I’m not sure you’re correct, and one could only verify by factory reset (which I’m not about to do).

As far as I can recall Sonos home theatre products won’t play TV input until part way through the app’s setup process.

Avid Contributor I
October 1, 2022

I’m not sure you’re correct, and one could only verify by factory reset (which I’m not about to do).

As far as I can recall Sonos home theatre products won’t play TV input until part way through the app’s setup process.

I did factory reset. Arc and Sub, both. I bought the system three days ago and it's my first Sonos system. So I didn't have anything to lose by factory resetting the whole thing. Arc worked without any set up (for the TV input). Didn't even have to take my phone out. 

ratty
October 1, 2022

I’m not sure you’re correct, and one could only verify by factory reset (which I’m not about to do).

As far as I can recall Sonos home theatre products won’t play TV input until part way through the app’s setup process.

I did factory reset. Arc and Sub, both. I bought the system three days ago and it's my first Sonos system. So I didn't have anything to lose by factory resetting the whole thing. Arc worked without any set up (for the TV input). Didn't even have to take my phone out. 

In that case I stand corrected.

Of course using the Arc as a dumb standalone soundbar, without internet access or software updates, is not what users do.