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April 19, 2020
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Connect Amp (legacy) for surrounds

Simple question;

 

Will it still be possible to use the old Amp for driving rears together with a new AMP when the legacy-split is effected or will the old amp then “hold back” all of my new speakers?

 

I will have all my amps located in an AVR-cabinet so could save a lot  if I could buy 1 new AMP for fronts and supplement with buying a used Connect Amp for rears which sells at around 1/5 of the cost of the new Amp. 
 

Probably a long-shot but understanding is that the AMP driving the fronts defines the group so I wanted to check. 

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pwt
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Virtuoso
April 19, 2020

Is there a similar “new” version of the Sonos Connect as well? Will also be needing a Sonos Port but would be fine with a used Connect if there is a “newer” version of that as well. 

Yes.

4 x P:5 | Sub | 4 x P:1 | 3 x Connect | 2 x Boost | Connect:Amp | 2 x One | Amp | Move | Port | Era 300

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pwt
Virtuoso
April 19, 2020

Confirmation from @Ryan S in the thread below that the presence of the ‘Play/Pause’ button indicates a ‘modern’ Connect or Connect:Amp.

https://en.community.sonos.com/components-228996/connect-amp-model-6826648

4 x P:5 | Sub | 4 x P:1 | 3 x Connect | 2 x Boost | Connect:Amp | 2 x One | Amp | Move | Port | Era 300
April 19, 2020

My recollection - which could be wrong - is that the two events pretty much coincided, i’e Sonos did not carry on making components with a mute button when the function was actually play/pause.

I personally would not rely on this alone.

 

pwt
Virtuoso
April 19, 2020

@John B : The images aren’t correct.

The same is true for my three Legacy Connects; the pictures shown on the Sonos My Account page are of Modern Connects, and they don’t match my actual devices.

4 x P:5 | Sub | 4 x P:1 | 3 x Connect | 2 x Boost | Connect:Amp | 2 x One | Amp | Move | Port | Era 300
April 19, 2020

@John B : The images aren’t correct.

The same is true for my three Legacy Connects; the pictures shown on the Sonos My Account page are of Modern Connects, and they don’t match my actual devices.

Yes I realised I’d been a complete plonker and deleted my comment!  Sadly not before you had seen it!

April 19, 2020

Here is part of a Sonos response concerning complaints about the change, which dates from late 2013:

“We hear you and understand where you’re coming from. We also understand that our communication on this thread hasn’t been up to standard and apologize for that. (JB comment.. plus ca change….)

The request to change the mute button to a pause button was both long-running and popular. Many people wanted a way to quickly pause (and then resume) their music without having to open and use a controller. At the same time, we understood that the mute functionality was used and loved by many, so it was moved to the volume minus, which now quickly mutes the player when held down. The PLAY:1 was the first player to feature a button labeled as a pause, and we’re progressively rolling out this change to the full product line.”

The Play:1 launched in Oct 2013.  As I said, my recollection is that it was considerably less than 18 months before the change was complete.

pwt
Virtuoso
April 19, 2020

The Play:1 launched in Oct 2013.  As I said, my recollection is that it was considerably less than 18 months before the change was complete.

I’m sure you’re correctly reporting your recollection.

However, I’m satisfied that the hardware revisions which saw a change to a ‘Play/Pause’ button in the Connect and Connect:Amp were simultaneously accompanied by the internal changes which make the devices Modern-capable. @Ryan S confirms this in the thread I referenced.

4 x P:5 | Sub | 4 x P:1 | 3 x Connect | 2 x Boost | Connect:Amp | 2 x One | Amp | Move | Port | Era 300
April 19, 2020

Ryan S said ‘The 2015 Connect and Connect:Amp units have that Play/Pause button as well.’  That is unquestionably true.  It doesn’t mean, logically, that no pre-2015 units have the play/pause.  There was another thread in which Ryan said that he thought the internal changes and button change occurred around the same time, but he didn’t say that they were specifically linked.

But you are convinced and that’s fine. You may well be right, and my recollection mistaken.

April 19, 2020

In the same thread, Ryan S also states you could look at the serial number’s first four digits which refer to month (x.x) and year (y.y). So one should go for x.x.15 or later I guess. 

April 19, 2020

I think the evidence suggests my recollection was incorrect.  At the time, I was a Sonos reseller, and I thought I remembered only having to explain that the mute button was really a play/pause for a very short time.  But I actually located a Connect:Amp product guide from November 2014 that has a ‘mute’ symbol labelled ‘play-pause.