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Contributor II
Dec 6, 2014 3:32 PM UTC

Best optical switch for playbar?

Hi could anyone help me with choosing a good optical switch to work with my playbar as so i can get the best out of my sky box,ps4,xbox one and apple tv as i believe I'm not getting the best out of my sons set up(playbar,sub,2xplay 1s)when the optical is connected to my tv and not the actual devices themselves. any ideas would be great.
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    Lyricist III
    Dec 16, 2014 7:44 PM UTC
    monoprice switch does not do conv from DTS to DD
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    Avid Contributor I
    Dec 16, 2014 7:54 PM UTC
    monoprice switch does not do conv from DTS to DD

    Nor does the Octava. I wasn't sure if that's what the previous question was in regard to or not.

    That being said, many Bluray players (my Samsung included) will convert DTS to DD if you tell it to in the settings. Works like a champ in my setup.
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    Avid Contributor I
    Dec 17, 2014 4:07 AM UTC
    Monoprice! mines almost 2 years old and never a problem!
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    Lyricist I
    Feb 10, 2015 5:27 PM UTC
    I've been using this switch for a while and have been very happy with it. It switches 4 inputs to 2 outputs. I needed 4 inputs and thought it was cool that it could send any of the inputs to any of the outputs (even the same input out both outputs).

    Search Amazon for "AGPtek Optical Matrix Switch 4x2". Was around $35 when I bought it via Prime. Great price for something that can do this with a little remote and tucks in nice behind the sounds bar.

    I was forced to go the optical switch route because I have a LaserDisc player (RF Modulator to turn RF modulated 5.1 to Optical) and I wanted 5.1 sound and of course my Samsung 4K was forcing everything to stereo.

    I like this box because it's small and has a remote. I use a logitec Harmony remote and just added it to that for my scenes and everything works great, especially with the small size and being able to hide it behind the sound bar since it has the RF repeater.

    So, as others have learned, also make sure you get a BlueRay player that will convert DTS tracks to DD, then you have a nice clean DD only network. I've been extremely happy now that I've got full 5.1 sound on all my devices, really made the world of difference for me.

    Port 1: Sumsung 4K TV
    Port 2: Apple TV
    Port 3: BlueRay Player
    Port 4: LD Player (via RF Modulator)
    Out Port 1: Sonos
    Out Port 2: Free

    Verified I get 5.1 from all my sources, unless of course the actual media is not 5.1. Huge difference on the BlueRay's and LD's with nice mastering on the audio, night and day difference for me vs my Samsung TV down mixing it to stereo. Granted, even the stereo sounds great, just not the same from the rears and sound envelope as with the pure 5.1 tracks.

    Steve
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    Lyricist III
    Aug 21, 2015 7:03 AM UTC
    You can buy a passive optical splitter for about £2 - £3 on eBay and use it "backwards" to combine your optical inputs.
    http://m.ebay.co.uk/itm/400957345815
    It can be used to combine two optical inputs into one. Or you could buy 3 of these to get 4 optical inputs into one.
    No extra remote and NO switching
    There is a caveat:
    Some devices will output a "silent" optical signal when not in use (you will see the red glow at the end of the optical cable) and if two (or more) digital optical signals are being fed into the splitter at the same time then it won't be able to be decoded at the receiver (in this case the Playbar).
    I have just bought one to combine my PS4 and Mac mini 5.1 sound outputs to the Playbar. I have discovered that the PS4 does NOT output a "silent" optical signal when in "sleep/standby/power saving mode." And after a lot of reading on the Internet about macmini's continuously outputting a "Silent" optical signal; I have found that this is not 100% true. After you close down the Mac application (Plex, ITunes, BBC iplayer etc) then the Macmini will stop outputting the optical signal !
    So for less than £3 per splitter you can combine two (or more) 5.1 sources directly to your sonos 5.1 system without the need for a switching device!
    Hope this helps someone, I'd been looking for a solution without having to manually switch optical inputs for ages!
    Cheers,
    Pete
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    Lyricist I
    Jan 20, 2016 10:23 PM UTC
    Hi Pete_17

    I have been trying to find a solution for the 5.1 solution for playbar and decided to have a go at the £3 splitter as you suggested. Now which cable do I need to connect to the splitter?

    Currently I am connecting the cable that came with the playbar from the Tivo box to playbar and sound is much better than connection to the Samsung TV that converted to PCM.

    I want to use the splitter to connect to the Tivo box and Android box (Minix Neo X8-H) to the playbar. Do I need to use Toslink to optical cable or the Toslink to toslink cable?

    I suppose it is no longer required to connect the Samsung TV to the playbar?

    Thanks in advance for your advise.
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    Contributor III
    May 23, 2016 11:26 AM UTC
    Amazon sells an Enko switch that uses a remote to switch between inputs 1 to 3, and in my case I trained my harmony remote to replace the remote that came with it, and all is well. Works very well so far, an elegant solution for switching toslink signals.

    I also use a monoprice HDMI switch which splits out toslink so now I use the three inputs on the toslink Enko switch with one coming from the monoprice, one from the TV direct (2016 LG OLED) and one from my Roku 4 which I had to separately set apart from the monoprice HDMI switch to ensure I was able to use HDCP 2.2 for the handshake with the TV and watch 4k output.

    Works all fantastic as far as I can tell.
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    Lyricist I
    Aug 30, 2016 5:47 PM UTC
    You can buy a passive optical splitter for about £2 - £3 on eBay and use it "backwards" to combine your optical inputs.
    http://m.ebay.co.uk/itm/400957345815
    It can be used to combine two optical inputs into one. Or you could buy 3 of these to get 4 optical inputs into one.
    No extra remote and NO switching
    There is a caveat:
    Some devices will output a "silent" optical signal when not in use (you will see the red glow at the end of the optical cable) and if two (or more) digital optical signals are being fed into the splitter at the same time then it won't be able to be decoded at the receiver (in this case the Playbar).
    I have just bought one to combine my PS4 and Mac mini 5.1 sound outputs to the Playbar. I have discovered that the PS4 does NOT output a "silent" optical signal when in "sleep/standby/power saving mode." And after a lot of reading on the Internet about macmini's continuously outputting a "Silent" optical signal; I have found that this is not 100% true. After you close down the Mac application (Plex, ITunes, BBC iplayer etc) then the Macmini will stop outputting the optical signal !
    So for less than £3 per splitter you can combine two (or more) 5.1 sources directly to your sonos 5.1 system without the need for a switching device!
    Hope this helps someone, I'd been looking for a solution without having to manually switch optical inputs for ages!
    Cheers,
    Pete


    I've just done this as I thought it through logically and for a Toslink Fibre Audio this should work, only as long as everything meets the Caveat in terms of no other passive Audio Signal. The good thing is, there is no Switch either manual or remote required, as the Playbar will do all the work as long as there is only ever one signal input.

    Simple, cheap and easy and in someways too easy and hence why some go for the all singing and dancing alternatives that are just not needed in many cases and circumstances.

    ATB
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    Avid Contributor I
    Jan 2, 2017 6:57 PM UTC
    Pete_17

    Read this with interest. Need to connect a combination of Sky (UK) receiver, and Samsung TV (for apps such as Amazon/Netflix etc) to the Playbar. Will the cheap splitter work if connected to the Sky HD box and TV optical out? If that works ok, this is a no brainer for my simple set up.

    Thanks.
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    Lyricist I
    Jan 2, 2017 8:57 PM UTC
    loobar23

    I can't answer for Pete obviously but only as in terms of what I've learned, and which I've added Apple TV 3 to my PS4 Optical Audio Inputs into my Playbar as my TV does not drive Optical out with HDMI into itself.

    Why do you want to split your Audio Signals? If your TV delivers your Audio Out from a Toslink, why don't you just take that? You may not need to Optical Out from your Sky Box also, just your TV as a first port of call.

    If you need both connected to your Playbar, there's a simple test you can do with a Toslink Fibre Audio to see if this works. When you connect a Fibre Cable from an Audio Out from a device which is On and delivering output, there should be light coming from the unconnected end of the Fibre Cable when the device is operating normally and outputting a signal. If you put a device in STBY or Sleep Mode, the light (red light or glow) should be extinguished. If when in Standby, Sleep (like my Apple TV and PS4) or Off there is no Red Light on the unconnected end, a simple Splitter will work fine.

    You need to check from the Sky Box really.

    But again, if you can just take the output from the TV, do it that way.

    ATB
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