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August 14, 2016

4K/UHD bluray players that decode DTS to Dolby?

  • August 14, 2016
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With 4K bluray players starting to emerge now, seems we really need to start keeping straight which ones will allow those of us with Sonos Playbars enjoy some semblance of Dolby sound when certain 4K blurays only offer DTS. (Note, I haven't yet purchased a 4K bluray, so am unaware of the typical sound offerings.)

But we went through this once already, for regular bluray players, with many threads devoted to outlining the multiple Samsung models of bluray that decode DTS to Dolby 5.1 (I ended up buying a Sony that also does so). Now let's do the same for 4K players.

So far we have the Samsung UBD K8500 (which seems to clearly decode DTS to dolby.) Now what about the Philips? The Panasonic? The Xbox One S?

Anyone have any idea?
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Lyricist I
August 8, 2017
Hi guys, can anyone confirm if the Sony UBP X800 will transcode DTS on the fly for use with a Playbar based 5.1 system?

Cheers
Lyricist III
August 8, 2017
Afraid not, the only players that can currently, to my knowledge, are the Samsung M9000 & M9500 and the Oppo 203. The Samsungs will output via HDMI to TV but the Oppo will only do it via optical output. I have the M9500 and it's superb, especially as its now dropped by £150 in price if you shop around.
Sony KD-XR65A80j, Panasonic Ubd9000 (discs), Samsung UBD-M9500 (media files) , Sonos Arc, Sub (gen 2) , 2 x Era 100's, 4 x Play 1's, 1 x Move
Contributor I
August 25, 2017
M9500 is all good except does not support Dolby Vision.
Lyricist I
September 9, 2017
Samsung M9500 Update 2

Great news - Samsung have just released a new firmware update for the M9500 and it solves all the Audio issues i've encountered.

It now plays re-encoded DD 5.1 for all formats (Disc & USB) and sounds as good as it looks without me having to change the output format. Just set it to 'Re-encode Dolby Digital 5.1' for all sources (Disc & USB) and it works brilliantly!

It looks absolutely fabulous on my Sony, even my wife has sat open mouthed at the picture quality. Planet Earth II looks bloody amazing!!!!

Definitely one for the Sonos user to consider as it's way better than the K8500 for picture quality. I believe it's also had a recent price drop in the US.


Hi opsman (and the rest of the Sonos community),

I can't get my M9500 to work as you've described. I can get DTS content from disc to re-encode on-the-fly to DD5.1, but can't get it to work with USB content (MKV's, HEVC, etc). I posted on AVSForum in the M9500 thread and someone responded saying that it's a known limitation (maybe that was you?). Anyways, I have the M9500 connected via HDMI to a LG OLEDC7P (which can pass through multi-channel to optical, since the disc content works). All software on all devices are up to the latest. How did you get your USB content to encode to DD5.1 (as per above)? Eagerly await your advice.

Cheers.
RO53BEN
Enthusiast II
September 12, 2017

I can't get my M9500 to work as you've described. I can get DTS content from disc to re-encode on-the-fly to DD5.1, but can't get it to work with USB content (MKV's, HEVC, etc). I posted on AVSForum in the M9500 thread and someone responded saying that it's a known limitation (maybe that was you?). Anyways, I have the M9500 connected via HDMI to a LG OLEDC7P (which can pass through multi-channel to optical, since the disc content works). All software on all devices are up to the latest. How did you get your USB content to encode to DD5.1 (as per above)? Eagerly await your advice.

Cheers.


indeed, in my experience this won't work. The USB playback function of this device is quite basic and doesn't even support modern uncompressed audio codecs. The transcoding function doesn't link here so DTS -> DD won't happen.
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Lyricist II
September 19, 2017
I've got the M9500 coming tomorrow to pair up via LGOLED55B6V.

Should i connect the blu-ray player to the TV via HDMI and then optical out from the TV to Sonos Playbar?

Has anyone been able to to stream from a nas device etc with the M9500 with sound output recoded to DD?

Dilemma for me is to find a solution for movies in a second family room. So the 5.1 sonos setup has been working a treat except i need to find a solution for movie playback with DD+, TrueHD and DTS sound tracks.

Hopefully the M9500 has the answer.
Playbar, SUB, Play 1, Play 3 & Play 5
RO53BEN
Enthusiast II
September 19, 2017
I've got the M9500 coming tomorrow to pair up via LGOLED55B6V.

Should i connect the blu-ray player to the TV via HDMI and then optical out from the TV to Sonos Playbar?

Has anyone been able to to stream from a nas device etc with the M9500 with sound output recoded to DD?

Dilemma for me is to find a solution for movies in a second family room. So the 5.1 sonos setup has been working a treat except i need to find a solution for movie playback with DD+, TrueHD and DTS sound tracks.

Hopefully the M9500 has the answer.


The M9500 won't allow you to play DD+, TrueHD or DTS through Sonos. it will allow you to turn those into lower quality DD, which will work through Sonos.

This will only work for disc media, it won't work for any files you play from USB, over DLNA etc.

You can try connecting the player to the TV and then the TV to Sonos but you may find the TV will only output a 2.0 stereo signal - this was the case with my LG OLED. There was a hack in the engineer's menu to make it work, but lipsync can be a bit hit and miss.
I am no longer active on these forums, DM me if you have a question, I'd be happy to help.
Lyricist II
September 19, 2017
Hopefully the M9500 has the answer.[/quote]

The M9500 won't allow you to play DD+, TrueHD or DTS through Sonos. it will allow you to turn those into lower quality DD, which will work through Sonos.

This will only work for disc media, it won't work for any files you play from USB, over DLNA etc.

You can try connecting the player to the TV and then the TV to Sonos but you may find the TV will only output a 2.0 stereo signal - this was the case with my LG OLED. There was a hack in the engineer's menu to make it work, but lipsync can be a bit hit and miss.[/quote]

Thanks.

Thats a shame

So is the OPPO 203 the only player to be able to re-code streaming via DLNA?
Playbar, SUB, Play 1, Play 3 & Play 5
RO53BEN
Enthusiast II
September 19, 2017
By the time I started looking at the price of OPPO devices, I decided it was just easier and more cost effective to go the whole hog and buy a proper AV receiver. If stereo/prologic was first gen movie audio, then Dolby Digital is 2nd gen. DTS is 3rd gen and then uncompressed audio like DTS-HD and Dolby TrueHD is 4th gen. With Atmos and DTS:X we're now on 5th gen movie audio at home and Sonos is stuck in the 90s.

I loved my Panasonic 1080p plasma for years but, despite still being happy with the picture, decided it was time to move on to the latest OLED to move into modern times. I didn't regret it. Doing the same for audio just made sense, so now my PLAYBAR is in the home gym with the old plasma. Great for music videos whilst working out.
I am no longer active on these forums, DM me if you have a question, I'd be happy to help.
Lyricist II
September 19, 2017
By the time I started looking at the price of OPPO devices, I decided it was just easier and more cost effective to go the whole hog and buy a proper AV receiver. If stereo/prologic was first gen movie audio, then Dolby Digital is 2nd gen. DTS is 3rd gen and then uncompressed audio like DTS-HD and Dolby TrueHD is 4th gen. With Atmos and DTS:X we're now on 5th gen movie audio at home and Sonos is stuck in the 90s.

I loved my Panasonic 1080p plasma for years but, despite still being happy with the picture, decided it was time to move on to the latest OLED to move into modern times. I didn't regret it. Doing the same for audio just made sense, so now my PLAYBAR is in the home gym with the old plasma. Great for music videos whilst working out.


Good ole panasonic plasma's had the VT20 & VT50 models... :-)

I have a full blown DD ATMOS System in our main Cinema Room, the sonos route was really just something to work in our family room, as i didn't want anything complicated, but didn't realise the DD issue via 5.1..... oversight on my part.

So rather than selling and buying something else (which i'm reluctant to do so, as i really like the sound) i thought i'd try to work with it and see what goes. I'll see how i get on with the M9500 tomorrow and hopefully it helps as a temp solution for at least watching 4k blurays for now.
Playbar, SUB, Play 1, Play 3 & Play 5