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April 10, 2019

The state and the transparency of Sonos regarding Google Assistant is just embarrassing by now.

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It is just embarrassing that a company of the size of Sonos is incapable of delivering a damn voice assistant integration. Something dozens of other manufacturers, way smaller than Sonos, already managed OVER A YEAR AGO. Sonos charges more for their product, yet is not capable to actually giving us a reliable timeline. They are not giving us updates since November (and that demo in January) and literally treat their customers the worst. By the time they roll out Google Assistant I hope most people have moved on from this incapable brand. At least their share price reflects their commitment.
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    spydrwebb
    Prodigy I
    April 17, 2019
    As has been stated, no intentions to diminish users' frustration. That said, how is continuing to post the same GA-related threads moving us closer to resolve?

    It's obvious this entire collaboration has fallen well short of what Sonos expected. Sonos management are most likely livid about the way this has all transpired, but that's the risk you take when partnering with a 3rd party.

    Google integration alone should not sell Sonos, nor should Alexa. Sonos at its core is multi-room audio, so they're focusing (I suspect) their developments on other elements of a better audio experience as well. This is, to say, Google is not the only thing keeping Sonos awake at night. I'm sure there are countless hours of lost sleep, but the sun will rise if GA isn't introduced officially to Sonos tomorrow.

    I would caution any investments in tech that are based on future updates and compatibility. Not suggesting all of you that are concerned decided to buy into Sonos purely because of the proposed GA integration, but obviously some did... and at this point, they're feeling burned.

    I get it, to an extent. For the time being, there are work-arounds available through Yonomi and Home Assistant. That's not (seemingly) identical to what Sonos will officially launch with Google, but it's functional and should serve the purpose in the interim for those that truly seek a "band-aid" to cure their ailing wounds.

    I have thousands invested into the Google/Nest ecosphere, but that's not the exclusive reason I poured equal faith into Sonos. Music is #1 on my list, closely followed by a reasonable HT experience. Voice assistant capabilities are an incentive that I'm looking forward to, but it doesn't stop me from enjoying what does exist until more official updates/firmware patches are available.

    Cheers!
    Beam, Sub, 2 x P:1 -- 5.1 (video) / 2 x P:3 (music) / 2 x gen1 One (music) ----> ever evolving setup, as they say...
    Lyricist III
    April 17, 2019
    As per my post the most frustrating thing is the lack of communication. For a company that is selling what's supposedly a premium speaker, it's appalling.

    Imagine if you were at an airport and there was an issue with your departing flight. Would you be happy for the staff to say "we're sorry but fixing the aircraft issue is taking longer than expected. We will give you an update later" and not communicate anything for hours on end?

    I bought the Sonos because I wanted a good quality smart speaker for my living room. I later was given a google home mini for my birthday and because of its GA capability I have that in the living room now. If my Sonos had GA (16 months an counting) I would use my Google Home mini in a different room.

    Agree I was aware that it would take some time to deliver. My trust in Sonos to deliver was definitely misguided.
    melvimbe
    April 17, 2019
    As per my post the most frustrating thing is the lack of communication. For a company that is selling what's supposedly a premium speaker, it's appalling.

    Imagine if you were at an airport and there was an issue with your departing flight. Would you be happy for the staff to say "we're sorry but fixing the aircraft issue is taking longer than expected. We will give you an update later" and not communicate anything for hours on end?


    Although I wouldn't use such strong language as appalling, I get the frustration. That's not a very good analogy though. I have to buy airline tickets in advance since seating is limited, I cannot wait until the plane is actually there and ready to go. The flight itself is all I get from the purchase, I can't do a darn thing while I'm waiting, etc. I would be frustrated in the airline case, but I wouldn't so much for Sonos since I still have the features I bought product for....but that's just me.


    I bought the Sonos because I wanted a good quality smart speaker for my living room. I later was given a google home mini for my birthday and because of its GA capability I have that in the living room now. If my Sonos had GA (16 months an counting) I would use my Google Home mini in a different room.


    So you didn't buy a Sonos One for it's potential GA features? You only gained interest in GA after you later received a mini?


    Agree I was aware that it would take some time to deliver. My trust in Sonos to deliver was definitely misguided.


    So if you had known that there was going to be a delay, or perhaps that you wouldn't get the details about the delay you wanted, you would have bought a different product or taken a different course of action?
    Danny
    UKMedia
    April 17, 2019
    The other thing to consider is that perhaps Google moved the goal posts at some stage in the development life cycle - What's Sonos communication going say that won't be negative about their tech partner. (When they have probably had to sign a gagging order, as part of the partnership) Don't confuse an 'IT project' with a Collaborative Product development which requires development with multiple organisations. Also, think of the testing in this scenario: Initiate music on the App, Change it via Alexa and control it via GA - and all the time GA and Alexa are moving platforms that you have limited up front knowledge of changes and no control....
    Remember: Sometimes Red Wine helps :)
    Lyricist III
    April 28, 2019
    Don't confuse an 'IT project' with a Collaborative Product development which requires development with multiple organisations.

    95% of projects I've been involved with have involved multiple companies to collaboratively build a solution. It's common place to do this and while I agree that can complicate things, it's not rare for technology related projects to do this.

    @Danny, honest answer is that if I knew it would take over 19 months after my purchase to get GA integration, I definitely would have gone for an alternative like one of the larger Google Home speakers.... What I liked about the Sonos is the best of both worlds - a speaker with great sound that was going to provide GA integration.

    I really think Sonos should do something to take genuine ownership for the delay. I think what is fair is that they will extend the warranty for all Sonos One speakers till December 2020 as a way of acknowledging the delay to their customers.

    Next Wednesday will mark 6 months since Sonos' last update......
    Ken_Griffiths
    April 28, 2019
    If the Google/Sonos integration did not happen, for any reason, I’m absolutely certain I would choose to sell my Google Home devices and stick with Sonos and Amazon Alexa... which really does work extremely well these days, with 'preferred' auto-grouping/ungrouping features and implicit playback access to Amazon Music, Deezer, Spotify, Apple Music etc.

    What’s not to like about that 'existing' excellent working integration?
    BCM
    April 28, 2019
    Exactly. I’d be more cranky with the one that gave me the GA instead of an Alexa. :D

    In the OP’s defense, he’s right. How many units did Sonos sell upon the promise of the feature and has yet to deliver after 16 months? With no status updates, it amounts to nothing more than false advertising. New products shouldn’t be announced until there are actually new products and not just ideas in the board room.
    chicks
    April 28, 2019

    What’s not to like about that 'existing' excellent working integration?


    Couple of things.

    1. Unlike the Home Hub, the Show doesn’t show the words as you say them, on screen.

    2. It’s still not as good at understanding those words, either. “Soup timer” almost always gets interpreted as “Sleep timer” by Alexa, but always correctly by Google. Google’s bot is simply better at understanding me.

    3. Home Hub always displays the current song, even while music is playing on better speakers via Chromecast. Show doesn’t have this fantastic feature, at all.

    Someone has clearly dropped the ball here, whether Sonos or Google. It’s unfortunate.
    Ken_Griffiths
    April 29, 2019
    Chicks,

    I accept there are advantages and disadvantages to each of the voice assistants. I do currently use both in the main rooms of our home, but I would still rather sell my Google Home Hubs and stick with the Sonos and Alexa integration, rather than sell my Sonos devices, that’s if the Google/Sonos integration falls by the wayside...it appears some people here in this thread were eluding to getting rid of their Sonos speakers, well that is not what I would choose to do.

    I may well hang onto the “Google Home Display” in the Kitchen, for use with recipes and YouTube etc. but my Home-Mini devices would go in preference to my echo dots. Ideally I would like to have the best of both worlds in conjunction with Sonos, but my Google devices would certainly be out the door long before I let go my Sonos Multi-Room wireless audio system.

    I just wanted to clarify and add these things to my earlier statement.
    melvimbe
    April 29, 2019

    @Danny, honest answer is that if I knew it would take over 19 months after my purchase to get GA integration, I definitely would have gone for an alternative like one of the larger Google Home speakers.... What I liked about the Sonos is the best of both worlds - a speaker with great sound that was going to provide GA integration.


    I can respect that answer as I think there are some legit comparisons between getting a Sonos One and Google Max, if google voice is a high priority to you. Most folks usually imply that there is some other multi-room audio system out there with Google integration already, and there really isn't.

    However, you said earlier that you bought Sonos for the speakers before Google integration was something that you were interested in. It doesn't sound as if you had a moment in the store where you actually debated between getting a Sonos One and a Google Max, but went with the Sonos One thinking GA would be on Sonos soon.
    Danny