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Contributor I
Aug 20, 2019 11:07 PM UTC
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Groups within Google Home App

I know one can create a group of Sonos speakers within the Sonos app. What I am hoping to do is to create groups of speakers (Sonos and Google Home / Mini devices) using the Google Home app. I can see the Sonos speakers in the Google Home App as visible devices, but I can not seem to include any Sonos speaker as part of the groups. Am I missing something or is this not a possibility? If not, any plans to revise this?

The Sonos integration with the Google Voice system is great, but if the voice commands work to play on "Whole House"... I would love for it to include my top of the line Sonos speakers. Any help is appreciated. Thanks!
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    UKMedia
    UKMediaAnswer
    Nov 4, 2019 11:58 AM UTC

    There is a way of doing this for all rooms in your Sonos system via IFTTT. Just follow these steps (I’ve used the web browser version but it’s possible to use the app as well.)

    1/ Log in to IFTTT and then click on your profile picture and select ‘Create’;

    2/ Click on the ‘+’ symbol in the phrase, select ‘Google Assistant’ and then select ‘Say a specific phrase’;

    3/ Type in your preferred phrase for Google Assistant to respond to. e.g. ‘group sonos’;

    4/ Click on the newly located ‘+’ symbol and select ‘Sonos’

    5/ Select ‘Play Favorite’ and then select the favorite, a default device and in the ‘Include grouped rooms’, select ‘include all rooms’. Followed by ‘Create Action

    6/ Google Assistant will then respond to ‘Hey Google, group Sonos’ and will create a Sonos group containing all of your rooms and start playing the Favorite

    If you want to play different music asking Google Assistant to ‘play xx on Sonos’ maintains the Sonos Grouping.

    I know this isn’t as flexible as you are all requesting but it does provide some level of grouping by voice to GA.

     

    Remember: Sometimes Red Wine helps :)

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    Ken_Griffiths
    Aug 20, 2019 11:28 PM UTC
    I understand and appreciate that Sonos rarely mention their development roadmap, but I too would like to see both default speaker(s) and grouping with the Sonos/Google integration, in a similar way to how those things currently work in the Sonos/Alexa integration. I guess we will have to see what comes next in their development cycle.
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    Lyricist I
    Oct 9, 2019 4:46 PM UTC
    I know one can create a group of Sonos speakers within the Sonos app. What I am hoping to do is to create groups of speakers (Sonos and Google Home / Mini devices) using the Google Home app. I can see the Sonos speakers in the Google Home App as visible devices, but I can not seem to include any Sonos speaker as part of the groups. Am I missing something or is this not a possibility? If not, any plans to revise this?

    The Sonos integration with the Google Voice system is great, but if the voice commands work to play on "Whole House"... I would love for it to include my top of the line Sonos speakers. Any help is appreciated. Thanks!

    Also interested!!!
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    Magpie
    Lyricist III
    Oct 14, 2019 12:04 AM UTC

    "... I would love for it to include my top of the line Sonos speakers. Any help is appreciated. Thanks!Also interested!!!



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    Lyricist II
    Oct 27, 2019 2:00 PM UTC

    +1 Adding support for being able to include Sonos devices within Google groups.

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    Lyricist I
    Nov 2, 2019 10:29 AM UTC

    +1 desperately needed

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    UKMedia
    UKMediaAnswer
    Nov 4, 2019 11:58 AM UTC

    There is a way of doing this for all rooms in your Sonos system via IFTTT. Just follow these steps (I’ve used the web browser version but it’s possible to use the app as well.)

    1/ Log in to IFTTT and then click on your profile picture and select ‘Create’;

    2/ Click on the ‘+’ symbol in the phrase, select ‘Google Assistant’ and then select ‘Say a specific phrase’;

    3/ Type in your preferred phrase for Google Assistant to respond to. e.g. ‘group sonos’;

    4/ Click on the newly located ‘+’ symbol and select ‘Sonos’

    5/ Select ‘Play Favorite’ and then select the favorite, a default device and in the ‘Include grouped rooms’, select ‘include all rooms’. Followed by ‘Create Action

    6/ Google Assistant will then respond to ‘Hey Google, group Sonos’ and will create a Sonos group containing all of your rooms and start playing the Favorite

    If you want to play different music asking Google Assistant to ‘play xx on Sonos’ maintains the Sonos Grouping.

    I know this isn’t as flexible as you are all requesting but it does provide some level of grouping by voice to GA.

     

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    Ken_Griffiths
    Nov 4, 2019 12:32 PM UTC

    Further to UKMedia’s most helpful post above, which is fine for grouping all Sonos rooms and playing a favourite, there is a slightly better way to do this, if you have either a Logitech Harmony Hub or one of their remotes that work with the Harmony App. This will allow you to create an 'activity’ to group any combination of Sonos rooms, so you could group together speakers in the same physical room, or a combination of rooms etc. and when the setup takes through the option to 'play a favourite', you can skip this feature and save the activity with a name, such as ‘Group all downstairs speakers’ (just as an example).

    Next, Link the Harmony Hub/Remote to your Google Home using the Harmony device/skill and you can then say “Hey Google, Group all downstairs speakers” and the Sonos speakers will group together without playing anything… then when you instruct Google to play music to any speaker in the group, or play to it’s (set) ‘default’ speaker, the music will play to the entire group.

    So that’s another option if you can get your hands on one of the Logitech Harmony devices. You may perhaps find their devices cheaper online this Black Friday, 29th November 2019.

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    Lyricist II
    Nov 6, 2019 1:21 PM UTC

    Agreed that Sonos should be more transparent with their goals. I spent $1400 on just one room and wanted to integrate this in my Google infrastructure, expecting they could do better than something like a cheap Insignia speaker. Assumptions... Sigh... 

    My workaround is with Chromecast and a Beam+2Ones+Sub.  This requires me to turn on my TV before hand for best results. 

    This works without something like harmony or IFTTT or harmony. 

    Ken's option is interesting too.. I might give that a try. 

     

     

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    Lyricist I
    Nov 14, 2019 6:59 PM UTC

    This is preventing people like me from buying more Sonos speakers even though I want to.  Instead I'm probably buying other Google speakers for other areas since they can be grouped.

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    Lyricist I
    Dec 3, 2019 7:41 AM UTC

    This is for sure preventing me from buying more. In fact I bought two of this to replace 2x Google Home units and when I found out they cannot be grouped or cannot be set to be the default music source I was shocked - especially since it's been like this for months. Unfortunately I have to return them as the convenience of having Google Assitants in every room (I have 4 between the 2x Home, Mini, and Display) with seamless audio as I walk around the house. Sonos this is a massive miss! 

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