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Contributor I
Jan 17, 2025 2:25 PM UTC

Warranty return process not fit for purpose - be warned

Don’t make the same mistake as me or at least be warned and know what to expect before you go through the Sonos Warranty Return process.

Background

I confirmed via Sonos support that one of my Arcs was defective. I bought (from new), 2 Arcs, 2 Sub gen 3, 3 era 300’s and 4 Era 100s. I also own a Roam. I would say therefore I am a “good customer”.

Sonos support confirmed via online chat that I should return my defective Arc and they would provide a replacement (this was after submitting diagnostics etc etc). They sent me shipping labels for UPS and I executed dispatch on the same day January 3rd 2025 by UPS. It all sounded so simple and efficient - just what you would expect from a “premium brand”. I even called my retailer and told them that I wouldn't bring it back to them after all as Sonos will take care of it. My wife and I were delighted with the apparent simplicity and convenience.

This is where the simplicity ended and I made the mistake of not doing my research and trusting in “Sonos the premium brand”.

Note that as a UK customer when you ship back to Sonos it is not back to UK it is actually to Poland. This was surprising but that's fine - no problem. This means that it takes at least a week to reach Poland - again this is ‘sort of fine’ and my shipment made it to their Polish base so I was relieved it had made it! Be warned however that this isn't the case for many people (just google the subject for shared experiences of that - plenty of horror stories there!).

Continuing on - my return was confirmed by UPS as ‘delivered’ on Friday 10th January. I subsequently contacted Sonos later that day to confirm they had received it and shared the UPS tracking data and wanted to understand next steps. The Sonos customer service agent said they had not received it - and - even looking at the UPS screen together with him online which said ‘delivered’ he said that it wasn't delivered because the ‘tick’ or ‘check’ mark wasn't like the other travel milestone ‘marks’. Clearly this was incorrect so I requested to share a file with the full UPS delivery certificate following which the agent viewed it. He didn't apologise and still used language such as ‘if this means it was delivered then its delivered’ and we have to scan everything so give them a few more days.

OK that's fine - no problem - other than the argumentative and confusing nature of the conversation with someone who I can only conclude hadn't had the correct training to understand the data they were looking at or to deal courteously with customers. As the customer at this stage you then start to think - ‘goodness me my £900 product return is now in the hands of people who don't really know where it is or what is happening’ (again google the subject and you will see that this poor service is ‘a thing’ with Sonos. My mistake - I trusted Sonos the brand - I was wrong to do so.

Monday the 13th January then arrives and I get an email saying ‘your return has been recieved and you should receive your replacement within the next 1-5 working days’ and that a courier tracking link will follow…. ‘phew!’ I think to myself, maybe I jumped the gun and everything will be OK after all.

A couple of days went by and I thought - no courier link yet? I contacted Sonos support again and they say they cannot see the status of what is happening and that I should wait a couple more days. The link will come they said.

I then followed up yesterday with Sonos support and the agent said everything was processed on the 3rd January and my product has been shipped. When I asked when it had been shipped he said 3rd January. I then asked ‘how could that be?’ when my Sonos confirmation email stated something completely different! The agent had no answer for this and said he could not help me, he couldn't see what was happening, had no way to check it and that I just have to wait for the courier link but that my replacement has been shipped and is on its way.

My current status is therefore that on day 14 of this process (and day 5 of the promised delivery window) nobody can tell me the status of anything whatsoever! Again please do your research and Google around this particular subject and again you will see this is the norm. There are many reports of very poor Sonos customer service issues similar to mine with customers whose issues go on for many more weeks. This also includes Sonos shipping refurbished products to replace products which customers bought new! This again leads me to dread that if and when my replacement arrives will I have to go through another loop of terrible customer service where nobody knows what is happening!?

I hope to report back with something positive soon but the intent of this post was simply to warn people that if you bought your product from a retailer rather than Sonos directly then make that your first port of call and avoid at all costs the direct Sonos warranty return process.

I made the mistake of trusting in the brand and it has been a mistake. I believe with the CEO “stepping down”, Chief Product Officer ‘leaving’ and ‘Chief Commercial Officer’ leaving too, that a poor company culture has become embedded and that, at all levels, the customers are being treated with contempt and complacency by demotivated and poorly trained staff who don’t seem to have any form of unified customer journey data.

I would also recommend that anyone thinking of spending money on Sonos products that they don’t UNTIL we can see some signs of improvement in App performance and function, better reliability of hardware (my retailer warned me about Arc reliability) and finally my latest poor customer service experience with the warranty return process which has been the icing on the cake!

I hope this post has been in some way useful to somebody...

 

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22 replies

Corry P
Sonos Staff
Jan 20, 2025 11:07 AM UTC

Hi ​@HDY 

Welcome to the Sonos Community!

I am sorry to hear of the issue you were having with your Arc, and of the difficulty you’ve had in getting a replacement shipped to you.

I won’t lie - Brexit has caused problems for us. Before Brexit, all shipments to the UK came from our warehouse in Poland. That was causing so many problems with ordering that we ended up opening a new warehouse in the UK so that products have already been through customs before customers in the UK even order them.

When it comes to returns, however, it simply isn’t cost effective to have them shipped anywhere other than to Poland - to do otherwise would entail setting up a whole new Returns department. Unfortunately, this means that customers are exposed to some of the difficulties we have with Brexit.

Once the unit arrived at our warehouse, however, it was entirely on us that a replacement was not immediately shipped - we apologise.

Please be aware, however, that you are in the minority - although there may be reports here of people having issues with returns, reporting that everything went smoothly is just not something people tend to do, so you won’t see those.

My colleague has just informed me that he will now instigate a process by which we’ll discover why this has happened, and rectify it for you.

I hope this helps - I’ll post here again once I find out more information..

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Corry P
Sonos Staff
Jan 20, 2025 12:22 PM UTC

Hi ​@HDY 

I have just heard back - we had no B-stock inventory to send to you, so we are now sending an A-stock replacement to you instead. You should already have - or very soon will - received an email to this effect.

I hope this helps.

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HDYAuthor
Contributor I
Jan 20, 2025 1:21 PM UTC

​@Corry P 

Hi Corry thanks for your reply and comments - its really appreciated. I haven't received an email yet but will keep an eye on this in the next few hours and report back.

By the way what is B stock versus A stock replacement please? If A stock means a new replacement then great thank you (albeit that's what I would expect anyway as I bought all new devices in my ecosystem). If B stock means refurbished then I would not want this and instead request that my own faulty Arc be sent back to me as the retailer would cover this immediately and provide a new one.

I fully appreciate your comments on Brexit (I don't like it either) which is why I mentioned in my original post that I can deal with and be patient with those kinds of issues - its the “black hole” you go into with customer service staff once the return has arrived in Poland whereby they can't tell you what is happening (nothing at all). This is where the frustration is. If they could help / provide updates then it would greatly ameliorate the situation.

Once again thanks - and I will report back once we have any movement my end.

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Corry P
Sonos Staff
Jan 20, 2025 1:39 PM UTC

Hi ​@HDY 

By the way what is B stock versus A stock replacement please? If A stock means a new replacement then great thank you (albeit that's what I would expect anyway as I bought all new devices in my ecosystem). If B stock means refurbished then I would not want this and instead request that my own faulty Arc be sent back to me as the retailer would cover this immediately and provide a new one.

B-stock is either units that have been returned within their Money Back Guarantee period, or units that had an issue that has now been fixed (such as if there were some cosmetic damage - we’d take the working internals out and put them into a new, undamaged enclosure, for example). If you organise a replacement unit, it will automatically be replaced with A-stock (brand-new stock) if the item was purchased in the last month. If you’ve had the item for over a month, it is replaced with B-stock. The stock you are resupplied with is determined by the system and cannot be overridden by our level 1 agents.

There is no guarantee whatsoever that a unit you purchase in a store has not been purchased and returned before - if the store opens the box and determines that everything that should be present, is, it may well go back on the shelf, or be kept back for when someone comes in looking for a replacement. I have seen evidence of this many times.

I fully appreciate your comments on Brexit (I don't like it either) which is why I mentioned in my original post that I can deal with and be patient with those kinds of issues - its the “black hole” you go into with customer service staff once the return has arrived in Poland whereby they can't tell you what is happening (nothing at all). This is where the frustration is. If they could help / provide updates then it would greatly ameliorate the situation.

I understand - it does happen from time to time, regrettably. All the information the agent you speak to on the phone will see is a check-box - a simple true or false. They are not in the warehouse themselves, and to find out more requires generally requires that we get in touch with someone who is - which is what we just did.

I hope this helps.

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HDYAuthor
Contributor I
Jan 20, 2025 1:46 PM UTC

​@Corry P Thank you Corry and in any case am happy you have confirmed an A stock replacement is what will be shipped. Again thanks for your help.

I haven't received any email from your Sonos colleague yet but as mentioned will keep you updated.

Thanks

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Corry P
Sonos Staff
Jan 20, 2025 1:56 PM UTC

Hi ​@HDY 

It may take a while to process yet. I will check again for you before the end of the day.

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Corry P
Sonos Staff
Jan 20, 2025 5:12 PM UTC

Hi ​@HDY 

You should have by now received an email for tracking your new package. If you have not received this, please let me know and I will give you the link via a private message.

It might be worth checking your spam folder too.

I hope this helps.

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HDYAuthor
Contributor I
Jan 20, 2025 5:38 PM UTC

​@Corry P 

Hi Corry thanks - I have been checking spam folders throughout but still no message in my mailbox or spam folder so probably need to send it to me directly please (where will I find private message by the way? Do you mean you will email me personally or on this community platform?)

Corry I would also be happy to privately share some of the (downloaded) support chats I have had - you offer great service so I think you might be surprised to read some of the content. For example I had been told that my replacement had already been shipped last week….

Again thanks Corry for your great service….its an example of the way to do things for your colleagues. I will confirm back here when I have your direct message.

Best regards H

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Corry P
Sonos Staff
Jan 20, 2025 5:53 PM UTC

Hi ​@HDY 

I’ll send you the link here (click on your user icon at the top right, then Private Messages):

I can already see your cases, so there’s no need. I will look through them and arrange feedback where required. Thanks!

You are most welcome!

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HDYAuthor
Contributor I
Jan 20, 2025 6:01 PM UTC

​@Corry P Hi Corry I have the link now via your direct message thank you. Fingers crossed all will be fine but let’s close the loop here when I receive delivery of the A-Stock item.

I will report back here in due course. Thanks again and have a good rest of the day.

Best regards, H 

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