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Contributor I
Jul 2, 2025 4:01 PM UTC

The REAL reason Sonos New App and Eco System is SO BAD!

As a Sonos user for over 10 years, purchasing and, for the most part, enjoying close to 30 Sonos wireless speaker devices in that time (Play1, Play3, Five, Soundbars, Beam, Sub, ARC, and Era 300s), I have finally come to the stark realization - it's over.  Sonos is no longer what it used to be.  It is not what it was meant to be. It is not what the original designers dreamed SONOS could have been, and very nearly was… perfect.

The Sonos app and ecosystem are now flakey, unwieldy, unresponsive, heavy and no longer the awe and joy I used to amaze friends and family with.

Here is why… 

Money.  More specifically, monetization. 

The primary, key flaw with the new SONOS app and ecosystem is that what used to be a private, on network wireless audio control system is now a cloud based controller system that requires a round trip to Sonos servers to process, collect and finally respond to what you have asked the local system to do.

Volume up?  Send the request out across the Internet to Sonos servers, where they process the request, store your activity data, and finally send a “volume up” command back down the long Internet pipe to your speakers.

Compare this round-trip delay, collision, fighting through routers, NAT, firewalls, and Internet congestion, and back again, with the previous Sonos app, which flew through your local WiFi to instantly ‘volume up’ at the lightest touch.

There is no amount of tuning, optimization or payload streamlining that can fix this.  Sonos knows this.  Sonos also knew full well the disruption this significant communication change would cause.  It is impossible for them not to have known…  a junior network engineer could have easily run the math.  A team of talented Sonos IT technical staff would have understood the impact immediately.  I am sure many on the design team raged passionately against the machine. 

So why would Sonos management choose a design path so clearly destined for catastrophic product experience issues?  Especially considering this change provides absolutely zero benefits, features or upside for the end-user customers.

Name even just one, real, tangible benefit that sending all your Sonos control commands, listening information and usage data to Sonos provides the user.  Name just one!

Why, oh why?

Money. Monetization. Stockholders. Stock price.

Sonos management convinced stakeholders that the key to improving the company’s bottom line and long-term stock price was user data.  Collect it. Analyze it. Amalgamate it. Monetize it.

The only way Sonos could amass a high volume of useful, relevant and valuable usage data was to change how the end-user interacts with their products.

Don’t tell the speakers to play your morning mix.  Tell Sonos, and we will relay the request to your speakers.  No need to communicate ‘volume up’ to your kitchen Play Five stereo pair, tell Sonos servers instead.  After they capture the time, your current volume level, the audio you were playing, and other metadata surrounding your choice to increase the volume, Sonos will be sure and adjust the volume up one more notch as soon as they possibly can.

Sonos believed the issues would not be that bad. They could ride it out. The financial upside far outweighed the real negative impact on customer usage experience.

Sonos was wrong!  Check out the Sonos 5-year stock price PLUMMET.

If Sonos is unable to reverse course back to its core, winning product combination — a local WiFi audio system with streaming service integration —

Sonos won’t be around long enough to release App v3.

 

 

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melvimbe
Jul 2, 2025 5:04 PM UTC

Here’s the privacy statement for anyone who is curious.

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Danny
jgatie
Jul 2, 2025 5:24 PM UTC

Uhhhh, Sonos has been collecting data since day one and there is nothing about routing commands through the internet that makes it any easier to collect data.  Also, the privacy statement describes in detail exactly what Sonos collects for data, and that section of the privacy statement hasn’t changed since voice assistants were introduced back in 2017.  Which is is even more proof that Sonos’ architecture change was not to facilitate more data collection.

 

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Mr. T
Jul 2, 2025 5:25 PM UTC

The belief volume control goes through the cloud has also been debunked.

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Prodigy I
Jul 2, 2025 5:41 PM UTC

I think this user is now so angry by his personal reasons and when he played music or something the Sonos app had an error (because yes it has some errors but not that bad, specifically in the privacy Sonos is very respectful and clear about this) so I think we should not continue to respond to an arrogance that we know is not true.

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AjTrek1
Jul 2, 2025 6:06 PM UTC

Where’s your documentation that everything is routed through the cloud; or maybe it’s just your conjecture for lack of concrete evidence.

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Stanley_4
Grand Maestro
Jul 2, 2025 6:52 PM UTC

If there is any interest in the real situation, these links might be interesting.

October Office Hours w/ KeithFromSonos + Nick Millington

https://www.reddit.com/r/sonos/comments/1gfuok4/comment/luqwr6g/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button

 

September Office Hours w/ KeithFromSonos + Nick Millington

https://www.reddit.com/r/sonos/comments/1fq1g6n/comment/lp8dcf4/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button

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Prodigy III
Jul 2, 2025 10:59 PM UTC

​@Technocratic Oath 

You flatter yourself that Sonos is that interested in you.

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Dogdad
Headliner III
Jul 3, 2025 12:13 AM UTC

Here’s the privacy statement for anyone who is curious.

Do you really think anyone will read those endless words of a black hole?

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AjTrek1
Jul 3, 2025 12:36 AM UTC

All this talk about data collection is a bunch of rubbish. Name one commercial company and/or financial institution that doesn’t collect data in some form or fashion. Heck, unless you’re driving an automobile from the 1960’s your cars GPS has collected data about you. If you don’t want your data collected then drop off the grid and go live in the woods. Become a Luddite. Maybe even wear a tin foil hat. BTW…who’s that standing behind you??

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Lyricist III
Jul 3, 2025 1:05 AM UTC

All this talk about data collection is a bunch of rubbish. Name one commercial company and/or financial institution that doesn’t collect data in some form or fashion. Heck, unless you’re driving an automobile from the 1960’s your cars GPS has collected data about you. If you don’t want your data collected then drop off the grid and go live in the woods. Become a Luddite. Maybe even wear a tin foil hat. BTW…who’s that standing behind you??

This is as unhinged as OPs post. 

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