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Sonos - S2 - without internet

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Earlier this year, I was looking at options to replace our older Sonos Connect and ZP120 units to bring my system into S2 compliance; 3 amps, 2 ports and an orphan Play 5 - not a trivial investment. There was no particular S2 function / capability I required at that time.

We play mostly music from our NAS and some internet radio. For some context, we’re in upstate NY where power outages are quite common and as our internet provider uses the same delivery infra as the electric utility - that is, poles - a power outage frequently takes out internet as well.

To my question: going forward, do we know if S2 will require internet access just to function? In our situation, that would be playing music from a NAS, controlling volume, grouping speakers, etc.

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Ian_S

Prodigy III

Even with a single device group, volume responsiveness on my system still sucks

If I don’t hit the dot exactly before I slide volume, it appears to be unresponsive. If I hit the dot its instant, even in group.

I would prefer an Apple Music type volume control, where you can touch anywhere on slider, and slide, ie not have to hit the ‘dot’ exactly before sliding.

The volume control behaviour is annoyingly inconsistent.

In non-group mode, even if you are accurate, you get no haptic feedback until you move your finger left/right.. so if you just hold your finger without moving it, you get no haptic feedback and nothing happens. If you’re not close, and just press and lift, the volume goes up or down by 1 number, depending on which side you were, but no haptic feedback at all... so if you’re too close to the dot and just press/release… nothing.

In group mode it’s different, pressing and holding your finger gets a slight delay before you get haptic feedback and then the group volume screen pops up… but because you get that unexpected initial feedback and something happens on screen you lift… then have to go again to actually change volume… but, if you click anywhere on the master volume line the main screen pops up and you get a haptic click...

I think it would be preferable in group volume mode that if you press and don’t let go, you don’t get the haptic feedback, the main group screen doesn’t pop-up, and the volume behaved the same way non-group does but changes the group master volume. If you want to then change an individual speakers volume in the group just press/click anywhere on the volume line to get the group screen flash up, and pick the volume control you are after. It’s distracting when it always swings up and you don’t expect it because the haptic feedback’s inconsistent.

My view anyway…

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John_61Author

Contributor III

The now working - revert to S1 option seems to be finding a few takers here in the forums. That sure is a direction I’d be thinking Sonos would be hoping folks don’t go.

My understanding is that the final version of S2 prior to May 7th still functions - whilst there'd be some humble pie involved, that should be re-released, I think, alongside the existing beta😉

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controlav

Lead Maestro

The now working - revert to S1 option seems to be finding a few takers here in the forums. That sure is a direction I’d be thinking Sonos would be hoping folks don’t go.

My understanding is that the final version of S2 prior to May 7th still functions - whilst there'd be some humble pie involved, that should be re-released, I think, alongside the existing beta😉

Re-releasing the old app would be simple were it not for Ace support.

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Ian_S

Prodigy III

The now working - revert to S1 option seems to be finding a few takers here in the forums. That sure is a direction I’d be thinking Sonos would be hoping folks don’t go.

My understanding is that the final version of S2 prior to May 7th still functions - whilst there'd be some humble pie involved, that should be re-released, I think, alongside the existing beta😉

Re-releasing the old app would be simple were it not for Ace support.

The main complication (ignoring Ace) as I see it is that they’d have to come up with a firmware downgrade tool to put you back to the level of speaker code we are at before the new app came along as well to undo some of the damage there too. However given that they have an S2 to S1 downgrade tool it wouldn’t be completely uncharted territory. Then just disable the update nagging.

I guess the difference this time round is that some people’s systems are in such a state they may be difficult to perform a firmware update of any description on, unless using an older interface would be more reliable?

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controlav

Lead Maestro

The now working - revert to S1 option seems to be finding a few takers here in the forums. That sure is a direction I’d be thinking Sonos would be hoping folks don’t go.

My understanding is that the final version of S2 prior to May 7th still functions - whilst there'd be some humble pie involved, that should be re-released, I think, alongside the existing beta😉

Re-releasing the old app would be simple were it not for Ace support.

The main complication (ignoring Ace) as I see it is that they’d have to come up with a firmware downgrade tool to put you back to the level of speaker code we are at before the new app came along as well to undo some of the damage there too. However given that they have an S2 to S1 downgrade tool it wouldn’t be completely uncharted territory. Then just disable the update nagging.

I guess the difference this time round is that some people’s systems are in such a state they may be difficult to perform a firmware update of any description on, unless using an older interface would be more reliable?

I do not believe they need to change the firmware to allow for an app downgrade: they can take the v79 app, change the minver firmware check, and re-publish it (with a v81).

I would like them to fix the Collections indexing problem, and revert their SSDP changes, (both firmware items) but neither are essential to rollback the app.

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