The physical speakers are the only thing that are good; and Bose would be just as good. Where’s the thread on a class action suit? Amazing how horrible the Sonos apps are (phone and desktop). System is basically unusable as 1000% inconsistent. So many screwed up aspects to all of it anymore, it’s hard to determine where to start and where to end when it comes to all the things it doesn’t do that it should, and does what it’s not supposed to, and how neither of the apps work 75% of the time (and that’s generous). Feel bad for the people who work there. -- because of how horrible the system has become and a total waste of money. So frustrating, and NO customer service support NOR systems support, of course.