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Is the Sonosnet dying out?

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Is the Sonosnet dying out? The new eras 100 & 300 can no longer use or perform it! They can only handle home wlan like move or roam.

If that's actually the case, I hope, that wireless repeaters will be perfect supported in the future.

Dirk

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SarahN

Local Superstar

I use a Boost as my router is in a really silly place in my fairly new built home. It works well to help my Sonos system and my portable speakers never get messed up by it either. I think it will be a shame if it is discontinued.

Can you have too many Sonos speakers? 🤔 😆

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craigski

Local Superstar

I have a theory. Sonos is committed to driving down the power consumption of their newer devices:

https://s29.q4cdn.com/969873633/files/doc_downloads/esg/Sonos-2022-Listen-Better-Report.pdf

SonosNet will consume power, as each device is a node in the SonosNet network, and can forward network traffic to other devices when idle.

If that functionality is removed from the devices, they will potentially use less power.

Looking at official power consumption the non-SonosNet devices all consume less power when idle.

However, the power saved in the Sonos devices will still be consumed by other devices, WiFi APs, mesh networks nodes, etc?

106rallye

Penny-wise, pound-foolish?

melvimbe

Penny-wise, pound-foolish?

Move and Roam have been operating on WiFi for years. We’ve had the option of operating all our speakers on WiFi for years. The Era speakers surely went through extensive beta testing. I would think that if such a setup increased the likelihood of network related errors in systems, Sonos would know about it.

Sonos stated that they didn’t think the Era speakers needed sonosnet as modern routers can handle it. Not sure why this reason isn’t good enough. Sure, probably helps reduce idle power consumption. It may very well reduce hardware costs, dev costs, and support costs...I have no idea. Will people still have network issues? Sure, they do with sonosnet now.

Danny

melvimbe

However, the power saved in the Sonos devices will still be consumed by other devices, WiFi APs, mesh networks nodes, etc?

That presumes that people don’t are already have a more modern router/network setup in their homes already, and would only ever do so to support Sonos speakers. I don’t really think Sonos is driving people to upgrade their networks so much as taking advantage of upgraded networks...but I suppose there’s room for debate there. Sonos certainly wasn’t a driver for me.

Danny

jgatie

I have a theory. Sonos is committed to driving down the power consumption of their newer devices:

https://s29.q4cdn.com/969873633/files/doc_downloads/esg/Sonos-2022-Listen-Better-Report.pdf

SonosNet will consume power, as each device is a node in the SonosNet network, and can forward network traffic to other devices when idle.

If that functionality is removed from the devices, they will potentially use less power.

Looking at official power consumption the non-SonosNet devices all consume less power when idle.

However, the power saved in the Sonos devices will still be consumed by other devices, WiFi APs, mesh networks nodes, etc?

As good an analysis as any I’ve heard.

buzz

Grand Maestro

Current routers and WiFi access points are much more capable than previous generations. Older units can only deal with one stream at a time. SONOS is quite talkative on the network. All but the lowest quality modern routers can deal with multiple simultaneous streams. This keeps SONOS from hogging the channel.

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