Dual sub mini setup

I dont’ know how much I have to stress this point, I know placement matters, but I still think a second sub mini working together would be great.  If what you’re saying holds, then why on earth does Sonos support two big subs in the same ‘system’?  And there’s plenty of people who find it valuable to have two big subs!  Do you think those people who buy two big subs are idiots?

Why should those who prefer the sound of the sub mini be restricted? - unlike the people who prefer the sound of the big sub. 

As a side note (but important):  Plenty of reviewers find the sub mini to have a ‘different’ kind of bass than the big sub, even though the frequency response graphs are quite close.  Many say the sub mini has a ‘cleaner’ or ‘tighter’ sound.  I totally agree, and prefer the bass of the sub miini vs that of the big sub.

You can argue all day long that it wouldn’t make a difference to the sound to add a second sub mini.  But again … sonos allows it (with the big sub) and plenty people do buy two.  Explain that to me and I’ll be glad to listen.

Investigate 3rd party apps that will allow dual Sub Minis to be used.

As I understand it the second Sub is to handle the bass in a more subtle way. This could mean it is of use to people that can pinpoint the single Sub now, see here for an example

 What I am saying is that you’ve not placed or set up your Sub right if you can pinpoint where it is. It could of course be that this is unavoidable in certain room lay outs - this means people using two Subs for this are more unfortunate rather than that they are idiots, as you would say it.

Sonos must have their reasons for this, and they could be more transparent about why they will not allow the use of two Subs Mini’s. These reasons could be based on sound quality, since one Sub Mini is already very subtle two could not enhance the experience enough to justify the price of the second Sub Mini. They could of course also be commercial - if you rally want the most out of your Sonos system buy two Subs.

On what basis are you justifying this statement?

Maybe “more subtle than a single Sub” would have been a better way to describe my understanding of the Sub Mini. That is mainly from reading about it though, so is my impression wrong?

I don’t own, nor have I heard the Sub Mini, but from reading reviews and other users experience of the Sub Mini in their systems, I didn’t get the impression the addition of a Sub Mini was “very subtle”. Sure, the Sub Mini is not going to match the Sub, but that’s not how I read your post originally hence the question.

I have the mini sub linked to a beam in one room. It sounds great, and it's a decent sized room. Very punchy and tight bass response. It's definitely not subtle. Very impressive unit. 

Meanwhile in another room I have the Arc, big sub (gen2) and 2 x play 1s in a 5.1 setup. It used to sound great but something has changed over the last ~18-24 months. It now sounds muddy and is hard to listen to. I've done the crawl test, truplayed it to death. Slight improvement but nothing like what I remember it sounding like. Maybe there's a fault with it or something. 

Because the sound of the mini sub in the other room is so good I thought I'll just swap the large sub for 2 mini ones. But nope, sonos don't support that for reasons known only to them. I seen a post by ​@Corry P that it was marked as a feature request 7 months ago so fingers crossed. Maybe Corry can update us?

I get the "one big sub has a better bass response and is cheaper than 2 mini subs" view. That's fine on paper but we all know every room and our preferences are different.

I've had sonos speakers since 2010 and my house is now full of them. I can live with all the app issues as long as the speakers sound good. But the room in my house that has the most expensive speakers in it sounds the worst 😔 

Hi ​@GleannanIolair 

There is no update to give - you can still only bind one Sub Mini to a Home Theatre system.

I hope this helps. 

Couldn’t agree more.  And the silly thing is, it’s money Sonos is leaving on the table, for lack of what should be a relatively simple firmware update.