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Trending Lyricist I
September 8, 2025
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why force your customers to expose their exact gps location when connecting to a wifi?

  • September 8, 2025
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Why does your system force all IOS users of your app to expose their exact GPS location to simply connect a speaker to a base station?

 

 

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Best answer by Corry P

Hi ​@Steve1098482 et al

Thanks for your post. We understand that you might have concerns over Location Services being needed for setup of smart speakers that appear to need no such information. We have the following information to share:

  1. Regarding iOS Precise Location: We understand that when you set permissions to "precise location" on an iPhone, the system has access to your exact location. However, it's important to clarify that this permission prompt is a function of the iOS operating system itself, as mandated by Apple for certain network-related functions, rather than a direct Sonos requirement. You, as the user, retain the ability to manage these settings within your iOS device and are able to disable this feature after the system is setup.
  2. Our System's Use of Location Permission: Our system does not force you to enable "precise location" to set up or connect to a Sonos system in the way you perceive. The location permission is utilized by the Sonos app to determine your local network SSID for troubleshooting displays and to expedite the auto-join process if you have previously connected to multiple Sonos systems. It helps the app identify the correct local network for setup. Importantly, you can revoke this permission anytime after the initial setup is complete without impacting the ongoing functionality of your Sonos system.
  3. No GPS in Sonos Speakers: Our speakers do not have built-in GPS or location telemetry systems. The connection between your speakers and the base station is established when they are within range of your local network, primarily using Wi-Fi and Bluetooth during setup. The precise location permission is not used for the speakers themselves to connect, but rather for your mobile device to identify and interact with your local network during the setup phase.
  4. Data Storage: We do not store any information related to geographical locations. Our primary objective in enabling this setting during setup is solely to facilitate the initial connection of a new product and ensure its identification within a local network environment. We do not use this for building a database of precise customer locations for our internal benefit.

I hope this helps.

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Local Superstar
September 11, 2025

again, so you think it is “good” to expose your gps location when simply connecting a speaker to their bae station?

When I’m inside my home, I do not get a precise GPS location, as there is no direct line of sight to the GPS satellites. You can use any iOS/iPadOS with a supported version to setup Sonos, there is no requirement for GPS:

https://support.sonos.com/en-gb/article/sonos-app-requirements

Thanks Craigski for your reply

for your information, the gps in the phones usesgps as well as ping times from up to 6 cell towers to calculate your exact location, within a metre or so

So line of sight is only one aspect of the “gps” calculation 

 

scary hey?

 

Yes, I agree, it is scary that some people do not understand what they are talking about.

Trending Lyricist I
September 11, 2025

again, so you think it is “good” to expose your gps location when simply connecting a speaker to their bae station?

When I’m inside my home, I do not get a precise GPS location, as there is no direct line of sight to the GPS satellites. You can use any iOS/iPadOS with a supported version to setup Sonos, there is no requirement for GPS:

https://support.sonos.com/en-gb/article/sonos-app-requirements

Thanks Craigski for your reply

for your information, the gps in the phones usesgps as well as ping times from up to 6 cell towers to calculate your exact location, within a metre or so

So line of sight is only one aspect of the “gps” calculation 

 

scary hey?

 

Yes, I agree, it is scary that some people do not understand what they are talking about.

That is what I’m so worried about and why I’m speaking out. Some people on here don’t understand the implications of such an invasive data being captured and possibly released, especially exact gps data. Very scary for me 

 

I’m glad you messaged 

Trending Lyricist I
September 11, 2025

​@Steve1098482 

I’m surprised you even have a phone if you’re this obsessive about data and hackers.

Rhonny, are you being paid by sonos

its a bit cheap if you be sarcastic like that

and I protect myself as much as I can using privacy settings through my phone. 
all apps that I use give me to option to use them with or without location, none force me 

 

so if that’s new to you, just think about the implication

 

Please just don’t dismiss it. Please understand the threat and please note that I’m trying to ask for guidance on here from people that might actually know, not just defend 

Corry P
Sonos Staff
September 11, 2025

Hi All

We now feel that this thread has run its course, and it will now be closed to further discourse.

Please re-read my earlier statement if you are still unclear about anything - all answers are contained within.

Thanks.

"Common sense is the collection of prejudices acquired by age eighteen." - Albert Einstein