Virtuoso

user request… Sonos app showing more detailed information than „lossless“ for apple music

Forum|Forum|1 year ago
April 21, 2025
9 replies
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I would like to see in the Sonos app more detailed information about the playing signal from apple music instead of just „lossless“ or not.
As there is a 3rd party app called „Bops“ for Apple TVos that is able to get this information from Sonos system I think it’s available and delivered by Apple.
Maybe Sonos needs Apples permission to show it… so my wish is Sonos to ask Apple or also other services.
Amazon Music is great and shows HD, UHD or nothing.

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controlav

Lead Maestro

My apps all show the sample rate and bits-per-sample for Sonos streaming playback, as well as the “lossless/HD” tags. You can see the Spotify details for example here:

Author of the leading independent Sonos apps for Android, MacOS, iOS, Windows and Xbox.

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DonkeySong

Enthusiast I

Would be cool if they showed this.

@controlav does your iOS app show this info?

SchlumpfAuthor

Virtuoso

@controlav

Thank you for sharing… but how is it possible Spotify via Sonos api or direct control is showing 16/44?
As far as I know Spotify still is limited to 320 kbps in OGG format.
Edit:

Ok… Google was my friend and obviously OGG 320 kbps bitrate can be at 16 bit / 44,1 kHz sampling rate.

Ralf

controlav

Lead Maestro

Would be cool if they showed this.

@controlav does your iOS app show this info?

It does, yes, though I believe lossless is not shown for Apple because it was enabled after the last update to the app.

Author of the leading independent Sonos apps for Android, MacOS, iOS, Windows and Xbox.

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Michael.B

Enthusiast II

@controlav Do your Phonos Ultimate apps work with the old pre-disaster S2 firmware (16.1.1)?

controlav

Lead Maestro

@controlav Do your Phonos Ultimate apps work with the old pre-disaster S2 firmware (16.1.1)?

All my apps work back to version 8.4 which was, I think, eight years ago, as that is the oldest device I have to test against.

Author of the leading independent Sonos apps for Android, MacOS, iOS, Windows and Xbox.

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sjw

Local Superstar

Any update on the Android version @controlav ?

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Michael.B

Enthusiast II

My apps all show the sample rate and bits-per-sample for Sonos streaming playback, as well as the “lossless/HD” tags. You can see the Spotify details for example here:

Would it be possible to show also the codec type and bit rate for lossy streams, like AAC 256, MP3 320, etc. ?
Or is this not technically feasible?

controlav

Lead Maestro

My apps all show the sample rate and bits-per-sample for Sonos streaming playback, as well as the “lossless/HD” tags. You can see the Spotify details for example here:

Would it be possible to show also the codec type and bit rate for lossy streams, like AAC 256, MP3 320, etc. ?
Or is this not technically feasible?

No, that information is not included in the data provided. If it was, I would show it.

Author of the leading independent Sonos apps for Android, MacOS, iOS, Windows and Xbox.

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