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January 27, 2022

Sonos making thousands of SMB3 connections to Synology

  • January 27, 2022
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Not sure if anyone else is experiencing issues with Sonos Music Library and the Synology NAS becoming unresponsive or very sluggish, or with random speakers disappearing from the S2 app.

 

I recently enabled the Music Library feature in Sonos (before the 13.4.1 update in Dec 2021 which introduced SMB3 support). At that time, I configured my Synology NAS to use SMB1 to allow the connection to work. I was on DSM Version: 7.0.1-42218 and running S2 13.3.2. Somewhere around 11/25/21, my Synology started going offline and become unresponsive. I was running a DS1517+ with 2GB of RAM and noticed that the SMB process was eating a lot more RAM than usual. Also, started seeing thousands of connections from the Sonos speakers, multiple times for each speaker. My Sonos updated to 13.4, but the issue still remained.

I opened a case with Synology and they determined that the Sonos speakers were opening hundreds of connections per speaker and leaving the connections open. This was slowly draining the memory until the NAS would become unresponsive.

On 12/7/21, S2 updated to 13.4.1 which introduced the SMB3 support. I turned off SMB1 on the Synology NAS and still saw the hundreds and thousands of connections. I would also see the speakers attempt an SMB1 connection still which was denied by the speakers. For testing, we tried leaving SMB1 on, but still saw the large amount of connections from the Sonos speakers.

I ended up switching to a newer DS1621+ with 8GB of RAM and the issue still continued to happen, but took several days instead of just one. At one point, the number of active connections from Sonos was near 4000.

 

After switching to the DS1621+ with more memory, the issues started getting worse on the Sonos side. Several speakers would start to show up as ZP100 (would be various speakers and not always the same ones). This marked these speakers as incompatible with the S2 app and so I couldn’t do anything relating to the music library (like remove it) until the affected speakers were rebooted. If you tried going to http://<ip of speaker>:1400/xml/device_information.xml nothing would show up, or just the XML banner stating “This XML file does not appear to have any style information associated with it. The document tree is shown below.” The speakers were acting similar to the old NAS where they would start to become unresponsive. I can only guess that with the hundreds of open connections to the NAS, the memory utilization would get very high and the speaker would stop responding correctly.

 

After rebooting the speaker that showed up as a ZP100 you could then hit the XML page and the speaker showed up correctly as a Sonos One. I would also get some speakers that would just completely drop from the application, but after a reboot, they’d show up just fine.. In all cases, my wireless controller showed all speakers connected on the network and they all responded to pings. After a reboot of all the speakers, they all showed up correctly in the S2 app and could all play music from the Synology. Also, after a reboot of the speaker, all the connections would slowly drop on the NAS and memory usage would return to normal.
 

The whole system would run fine for a couple of days and then the connections would start appearing on the NAS at various times (not just at the 2am re-indexing time). I also noticed that whenever I had the S2 app up and when I would explore a Sonos playlist that contained music from the NAS, I would get SMB1 failures in the NAS logs for the associated speaker. I believe that the code is still set to use SMB1 for some functions and is getting blocked by the NAS..

 

If I disable the Music Library, all the speakers stay connected to the wifi network and I can stream music with no issues for several days. The memory on the NAS remains at normal levels and doesn’t climb over time. I still see SMB1 connections whenever I pull up the S2 app as long as the Sonos playlists exist that point to music on the NAS, even if the Muisc Library is disabled. I still think the Sonos code is trying to use SMB1 to update something either with album art or the track icons and is having trouble. If I browse to the album directly under Music Library, the album art does show correctly. It just seems to be the track icons in the playlist has trouble populating. These playlists were created by selecting various tracks in the Music Library and adding them to the Sonos playlist.

 

I have tickets open with both Synology and Sonos and currently waiting to hear back from Sonos after giving them countless diagnostics and logs. It seems that the diagnostic logs don’t show the connections to the NAS and so support doesn’t have any visibility into the problem other than looking at the thousands of connections in the Synology logs that I’m providing them.

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ChewbuckaAuthor
Trending Lyricist I
March 31, 2022

I don’t believe 14.4 has fully resolved the issue. I installed 14.4 a couple of days ago and re-added the Music Library. I haven’t seen any SMB1 connections and at first, things looked better from an open connection standpoint.

I’m sad to report that I currently have 263 active connections from what appears to be the last speaker that I played music from the Music Library. Here are some of the latest logs showing the connections within a 10 minute timeframe.

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James L.
Retired Community Staff
March 31, 2022

Hi @Chewbucka,

 

I ask that you please reach out to our customer care team for some live troubleshooting, as our engineers are looking to investigate any cases where this issue persists after the 14.4 update.

Mark good posts by pressing the like button, and select the best answer on questions you've asked to help others find solutions.
ChewbuckaAuthor
Trending Lyricist I
March 31, 2022

Hi @Chewbucka,

 

I ask that you please reach out to our customer care team for some live troubleshooting, as our engineers are looking to investigate any cases where this issue persists after the 14.4 update.

I’ve replied back to the customer care rep yesterday with the same information posted here, but haven’t heard back yet.

ChewbuckaAuthor
Trending Lyricist I
March 31, 2022

Also, as an FYI, I’m only seeing connections from one speaker. The connections are up to 565 active sessions. I do have songs from the NAS queued up on this speaker, but not playing. I’ve just cleared the queue on the speaker with all the connections to see if that helps.

ChewbuckaAuthor
Trending Lyricist I
April 2, 2022

After removing the queue from the speaker, no new persistent connections are made to the NAS, just the 565 that were there from before.

I’m also starting to see SMB1 connections, from several speakers, randomly showing up again even when the mobile app wasn’t running.

Warning

Connection

2022-04-02 08:11:30

SYSTEM

Host [192.168.22.120] failed to connect via [SMB] due to [SMB1 not permitted].

Warning

Connection

2022-04-02 08:11:30

SYSTEM

Host [192.168.22.115] failed to connect via [SMB] due to [SMB1 not permitted].

Warning

Connection

2022-04-02 08:11:30

SYSTEM

Host [192.168.22.120] failed to connect via [SMB] due to [SMB1 not permitted].

Warning

Connection

2022-04-02 08:11:30

SYSTEM

Host [192.168.22.118] failed to connect via [SMB] due to [SMB1 not permitted].

Warning

Connection

2022-04-02 08:11:30

SYSTEM

Host [192.168.22.115] failed to connect via [SMB] due to [SMB1 not permitted].

Warning

Connection

2022-04-02 08:11:30

SYSTEM

Host [192.168.22.118] failed to connect via [SMB] due to [SMB1 not permitted].

 

I’ve rebooted the speaker that had the 565 connections open to the NAS to see if they disconnect from the NAS. It would appear that if you have any songs from the NAS queued up on a speaker, it will slowly open persistent connections to the NAS.

I’ve reported this to support, but we haven’t done any additional troubleshooting at this time.

ChewbuckaAuthor
Trending Lyricist I
April 3, 2022

The previous connections went away on their own and now another 361 connections have been made by the same speaker as before. This speaker is not currently the associated product and is a speaker that has a playlist queued up from Spotify so not sure why the speaker is still making persistent connections to the NAS.

I’ve reported this to support as well.

Trending Lyricist I
April 30, 2022

I had some time so I updated everything to 14.6 (5 devices) and still have the problem. 403 connections to the NAS from the speakers.

 

root@ix4-300d:/# smbstatus | grep Music | wc -l
403

 

I also wired everything in case the connection were getting deauths and that was causing it, but the same problem happens even when the speakers are physically wired, so it has nothing to do with that. I will call support.

 

ChewbuckaAuthor
Trending Lyricist I
May 1, 2022

I’ve updated to 14.6 and still have the same problem, although it appears it isn’t quite as bad as before. I have 427 connections, but it doesn’t appear to be growing until there is no more memory on the NAS. Before, the connections would just continue to grow by the hundreds until there was several thousands of them. Now it appears to be under 500 connections.

I’ve let support know and have been keeping them updated. They said they are looking into it, but haven’t heard anything back from them.

Trending Lyricist I
May 2, 2022

Hi folks,

 

I’m happy to say that this issue has been resolved with the latest S2 update (14.4). Sonos players should no longer be sending excessive requests to your NAS drives when using the music library when updated to this version.

Please let our customer care team know if you’re still experiencing this issue after updating all players and controllers to 14.4. 🙂

 

James since it is not resolved I just gave a courtesy call to support and uploaded my logs which are 14.6 and the problem appears hardwired and wifi so as to rule that out.

 

Support said:

“Basically what  our support doing is they will going to look at the forum and check a work around to fix the issue. You will be updated on the link that you've provided to us in the community.”

 

 

So possibly if there is anything to say they will reply back here.  I guess my next step would be to try out alternate SMB servers to see maybe there is some bug in a specific SAMBA version. I’m a little perplexed that more people haven’t complained en mass, but maybe nobody uses direct file share anymore or people don’t update beyond 13.x. It is very mysterious to me why only two people seem to reliably have the issue.

 

If it is of any help, updating the sonos firmware clears all the connection, as does switching from wifi to hardwire, or from hardwire to wifi. You can actually see all the connections cleaned up, but then the problem slowly grows again until the sonos is again switched or reset.  The Sonos seems to be holding those connections is some sort of connection queue and forgetting about them.

 

Trending Lyricist I
May 5, 2022

Update: I mirrored my NAS to a rasperry pi via NFS, and then served that to the sonos via smb, in effect creating a 2nd smb server, and the problem still happens very quickly and is easily reproducible. So 99% sure it is a problem with Sonos.