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Sonos last.fm only updates after switching play back to a device and only caches 50 songs

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January 15, 2025
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I’ve seen this raised a million times but all the topics are closed. Scrobbling doesn’t happen live, it seems to happen whenever I switched from playing on my Sonos speakers via Spotify to another device (i.e. phone, laptop). If I play music only on my speakers for a week it will never scrobble anything.

When it does scrobble if you switch away, as mentioned it only scrobbles the last 50 tracks, meaning I lose hundreds if not thousands of scrobbles a month.

This may seem silly, but I’ve used last.fm since 2008 and I really enjoy keeping a proper back catalog of music throughout my life...I would really like this to work properly.

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Best answer by Corry P

Hi @Parsnip62

I literally just brought it up in a meeting a couple of hours ago. The result of that is my following statement:

The best you can do is get in touch with Last.fm and ask them to get in touch with their Sonos partner representative.

Corry P

Sonos Staff

Hi @japhex

Welcome to the Sonos Community!

Sorry to hear of this scrobbling issue you are having on Last.fm.

Last.fm is only available in the US (as far as I can tell), and as such, I (in the UK) am entirely unfamiliar with it. Please be aware, however, that the information that I do have is that Last.fm is no longer actually available on Sonos, so I doubt that you will ever get scrobbling working to a satisfactory level - in fact, I am surprised you can still play Last.fm at all!

I hope this helps.

"Common sense is the collection of prejudices acquired by age eighteen." - Albert Einstein

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japhexAuthor

Contributor I

I’ve used it since 2008 from the UK and it’s worked absolutely fine. It also does work as mentioned, it only scrobbles under the circumstances mentioned though, when I stop playing music through sonos and play it on any other device, and then the sonos cache only contains the most recent 50 songs.

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Parsnip62

Enthusiast II

Hi @japhex

Welcome to the Sonos Community!

Sorry to hear of this scrobbling issue you are having on Last.fm.

Last.fm is only available in the US (as far as I can tell), and as such, I (in the UK) am entirely unfamiliar with it. Please be aware, however, that the information that I do have is that Last.fm is no longer actually available on Sonos, so I doubt that you will ever get scrobbling working to a satisfactory level - in fact, I am surprised you can still play Last.fm at all!

I hope this helps.

Are you able to explain or find out why last.fm is no longer available on Sonos? This is an important feature for many of us, and was the main reason I chose Sonos over Bluesound all those years ago.

To have this removed as a supported service is beyond frustrating and just adds to the list of things which infuriate loyal users on a daily basis since last May.

Corry P

Sonos Staff

Hi @japhex

Our Last.fm info pages have been removed, so I could only guess at the availability.

Again, I cannot help you - the service is no longer available on Sonos. As a result, it is no surprise whatsoever that scrobbling does not work.

I recommend that you do not try removing the service from your Sonos system - you will not be able to add it again, and scrobbling will be the least of the issues.

"Common sense is the collection of prejudices acquired by age eighteen." - Albert Einstein

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Parsnip62

Enthusiast II

Sigh.

Corry P

Sonos Staff

Hi @Parsnip62

Are you able to explain or find out why last.fm is no longer available on Sonos?

No. I only know that they have been removed. We support any service who is willing, so you will need to ask Last.fm directly.

You can still play removed services on Sonos via Bluetooth, Line-in, or AirPlay.

I hope this helps.

"Common sense is the collection of prejudices acquired by age eighteen." - Albert Einstein

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Parsnip62

Enthusiast II

Hi @Parsnip62

Are you able to explain or find out why last.fm is no longer available on Sonos?

No. I only know that they have been removed. We support any service who is willing, so you will need to ask Last.fm directly.

You can still play removed services on Sonos via Bluetooth, Line-in, or AirPlay.

I hope this helps.

Last.fm is different to the streaming services though.

As far as I know, they provide the tools / APIs etc and the hardware guys do the rest. So it would be a Sonos side update / decision and not the other way round.

Does that make sense?

Corry P

Sonos Staff

Hi @Parsnip62

Not really - we have our own API, SMAPI (Sonos Music API). All services use SMAPI to play on Sonos devices, regardless of whether they have their own API or not.

"Common sense is the collection of prejudices acquired by age eighteen." - Albert Einstein

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Parsnip62

Enthusiast II

Hi @Parsnip62

Not really - we have our own API, SMAPI (Sonos Music API). All services use SMAPI to play on Sonos devices, regardless of whether they have their own API or not.

Right, but last.fm is not a streaming service. You don't play music from it. I'll dig out their faq when I get a mo.